2019-06-15 17:16:46

Hi.
I'm also super surprised and extremely exciting for the menu narration. It is totally amazing. Really very well and great job. Just, wow...
I also hope this will come to other titles as well.
I'm still trying to learn the basics in the game. What is the setting called which enables the visual vibration when you have to kick the ball? I'm not sure if it's on or off, and I can't find it in the accessibility settings. I'm sure I'm looking at the wrong thing. smile
I can't seem to find the practice section as well. I would like to practice the basics of the gameplay, but I'm not sure if it has been cut out of the beta.
I've tried to play a match, but I have no idea on what I'm doing.

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2019-06-15 18:21:11

Hi it’s called vibration or rumble   Effects  I can’t remember wich anyway set it to assist it is set to normal by default
ps agreed the screen reading is awesome  I will definitely be getting the full game
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Hannes Fouche

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2019-06-15 18:58:44

So I agree the voice is a bit hard to understand, but I suspect the tts choices may be limitted. I believe it's the same voice the roku uses.
I still love it though. Has drastically improved my experience

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2019-06-15 19:11:25

Yeah you get used to the voice, honestly. Advance play calling is kind of confusing me though. It doesn't seem to be 3 down anymore, that looks like sim game?

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2019-06-15 19:26:51

Orin wrote:

BradP: No, menus are not the easiest thing to implement. Not on consoles.

This is very true. Here is some perspective on previous accessibility features.
The combination of brightness, contrast, colorblind, and enlarge took about 2-3 person weeks.
Assistive controller vibrations took 1-2 person weeks.
Narrated menus took well over 100 person weeks. When I last checked, 3 people were working full time on this. The final number is probably much higher. Even so, they still weren't able to solve all technical issues in time, especially in game, but they certainly tried.

Karen Stevens
EA Sports Accessibility Lead

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2019-06-15 20:27:49

ea_accessible wrote:
Orin wrote:

BradP: No, menus are not the easiest thing to implement. Not on consoles.

This is very true. Here is some perspective on previous accessibility features.
The combination of brightness, contrast, colorblind, and enlarge took about 2-3 person weeks.
Assistive controller vibrations took 1-2 person weeks.
Narrated menus took well over 100 person weeks. When I last checked, 3 people were working full time on this. The final number is probably much higher. Even so, they still weren't able to solve all technical issues in time, especially in game, but they certainly tried.

Karen Stevens
EA Sports Accessibility Lead

I really wish Oragin sign in would be narrated. I was in a situation earlier where I only had my phone available. I had Seeing AI, but the keyboard on both platforms won't speak. Perhaps I changed something but I can't remember.

Is there a way to skip Oragin just so that I can get in and play and test? I might be able to go back tomorrow but I still won't have a computer to OCR anything.

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2019-06-15 21:04:10

OK, I won’t repeat what has been already said as far as the voice, and everything else. I agree with it. Also with the fact that with all of that it’s still doesn’t change my opinion of the game, and the appreciation of the progress that has been made.   And that I will repeat. Thank you to each and every person who had anything to do with this game and all its accessibility features. I’ll definitely be picking this one up at launch. I did create a player, and later on today will be working on a cloud franchise. Oh, one thing I will say is that if you’re creating a player make sure you clear the fields before you start typing name, last name, and some of the other stuff. It won’t tell you, but there’s stuff written there already.

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2019-06-16 02:54:23

After getting stomped on repeatedly in Madden 20 today I did some googling. Apparently the best way to stop interceptions is to run plays with the same formation to confuse the defense and to read the field. On one hand, it makes me feel better that at least half of my sucking is beyond my control, on the other... blarg lolz.

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2019-06-16 03:40:33

Well, I had about six emails from EA this morning with a code to enter. Because I had no OCR, I had no idea that I was supposed to enter a code.

Damn it.

@Death: That "reading the field" part will be the "death" of us in Madden. Especially online. One of the reasons I hadn't gone head to head in a ranked match online yet.

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2019-06-16 03:48:51

Yeah idk, I think it could be doable if I also wasn't complete trash at defense as well. Even then, that also needs the ability to read. Just frustrating to play against literally anyone not an AI and fail miserably.

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2019-06-16 07:19:13

I love what they did with the stadium announcer, I don’t think it was that good and 19. It’s been a while since I’ve played.  If something was mentioned about that already and I missed it my bad.

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2019-06-16 20:58:34

the calling plays by play type is only one down.  It's Suggestions, Playtype,  Previous plays, and Super Si.m

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2019-06-16 21:11:43

Hello to all,
I am reading this feedback, and I have to admit, I am becoming quite tearful.  Lots of hours were put in to this, from everyone who worked on it. I am hoping that playcalls can be addressed down the line, but  to see all the posative feedback, it's all been worth it.  Keep the feedback coming, but put it on the ea.com/able forums.
Also, when this game comes out, I'm inviting everyone who has gotten the game to a league. I also want to stream it, like a real season, so  that will be fun. I've met some of you yesterday, and it was awesome, hanging out with all of you. To admit that that was the first time that I've done something like that is well, we'll just skip something like that! smile  I'll be watching this thread, but I'll also be watching the forum on ea starting tomorrow.
I wish the beta could be extended, and I"ll be sad to see it go, but for those who order the $79.00 version,  and have ea access, we should be seeing it july 26st, I believe. Don't quoat me on that.
Can't wait to see you all out there!
I'll be around hopefully later for some game play. Those who have me on skype, just let me know.

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2019-06-16 21:56:37

Yes, I’ll make sure to jump on those forums as well. It will be cool to join a league like that, and join in the streams.   This is all exciting for a bunch of reasons.   Also anyone feel free to add me on both Skype, and Xbox.

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2019-06-16 23:22:59

Finally got a few hours of time with the beta this morning, and I don't have anything bad to say other than the beta is too dang limited!

I thought Ultimate Team was available, but turns out it's either franchise or online head to head. I tried both of them.

I created an Eagles franchise and love how most things can be done without OCR. I say "done", as in completed, however there are some nuggets of information that currently the TTS does not read. The dev team it seems only made the most important menus read, and *only* the menus. For example, on the experience feedback screen post-game the only menu option that reads is Gameday Goals because that's where you click to continue to the next screen. However there is, well, XP feedback on here such as coach XP and other  information you may want. I know in Madden 19 I read it using OCR but I had no such method available to use this morning. I played it how it should be played, with the TV and audio, which is what our goal should be, we shouldn't need OCR at all, let alone some of the time as we do now.

There are 13 options in the menu that don't read, unless these are items related to the aformentioned information.

On the Franchise hub, you are unable to read the news. I didn't check the schedule but not sure if that will read either. The news in particular is a let-down as that is a pain to read using OCR with other things in the window since they're in tabs. As I said, the things that will read are things that are absolutely required to manage the franchise, and not the other things to give more information E.G. News. You can get to the news menu and select top stories, but I wasn't able to make any headway after that.

Training in franchise is... doable. I figured out that the buzzer means I did something wrong, and the rumbles indicated whether they want me to throw or run, however there were text prompts in between plays that, perhaps, would be helpful to know about. I'd also be curious how many upgrade points I get per player. On the training complete screen, I just got a list of three players, who I assume received the most training and can be upgraded, but I'm not sure what a lot of the upgrades are so used autoupgrade.

Also not sure how to create a gameplan during Franchise creation. There was something about free practice and I couldn't change it for three players. I left it alone but for testing purposes was curious what options I had. Another note, anything where the TTS says "view message" in Franchise, the TTS won't read it and we have to rely on OCR. This includes things like post-game feedback... I guess from fans...

Also not sure where the scenario engine comes in, but I only played two weeks of preseason so maybe that's only in the regular season.

Lastly, I tried a Head to Head match because besides getting creamed in the Pro Bowl, that was all I had left to try of the beta. There are only four teams to choose from in the beta for head to head, and we ended up both choosing the Rams. Madden mirror matches suck for commentator reasons. My rams weren't so lucky though I found it amusing that my offense was the same as his defense, and vice versa. At least my defense kept stopping his offense so that only one touchdown was scored and the rest were field goals as I stopped his offense usually first to fourth and goal at one point. I'm not sure how to try and block field goal kicks, extra point kicks or really any other kick on defense. There were a few posts back saying there's a sound when the ball is in the air now. I notice distinctly a better, punchy sound to kicks, however I did not notice a sound when the ball was in the air during passing plays.

If any of my players had this new superstar ability, I don't know how to figure it out, nor do we get information as to the objectives needed to get into the zone with these abilities. Again, I'm playing with absolutely no ability for OCR, so I'm playing it the way that, in time, we should all be playing. I went over to my house with my PS4 specifically to test it this way because I wasn't bringing my computer back over there and because today is the last beta day.

HTH and I'll be sending this over to EA Able now.

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2019-06-17 03:25:45

Hello Oran,
Yes, I fully agree with all of you that all of this needs to be fixed! Do post it on the forum! A heads up on the schedule, it does read, as well as the standings, injury reports,  stats, and anything that is a spread sheet. The problem is like you said that the extra information that a sighted player can see is not read. I can't wait for the day when OCR is not required!  Also, in trading, you can't tell what other teams are looking for, wich means that trading requires ocr.

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2019-06-17 07:22:42

So  the Madden NFL beta is over, sadly. I personally was sad to see it end.
But I think we can all agree that the work put in by ea is not to be taken lightly, nor should we look at it as the end of the journey. EA I have a feeling is not through,  and we should not just stop with EA. Forza horizon 4 has accessible menus, but impossible gaps in game play that need to be addressed. We do not yet know what 2k holds and I think we need to be on the lookout for any games that say that they are CVAA compliant.  We need  to report what we find, and we have an idea for that. Pdex and tblaze  are working on it now, and I think if we work together, we can go far with this.
As for Madden, July 25th, will be the free period before the game releases if you have EA access. At 4.95 per month, or 24.99 per year, it's a steal. I will be streaming, and I'm inviting all of you. Leagues, turnaments, the hole deal, let's put the madden community on notice.
Congratulations EA, for taking that next step! We look forward to what you have in store for the future, and we will be on the grid iron this year!

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2019-06-17 07:47:06

I only wish forza Motorsport 7 had said menus, but I am so excited for what we're seeing in Madden. Finally a game that we can enjoy has talking menus.
I sort of count Mortal Kombat, but it's not full on menus like we have in Madden. using the menus plus a bit of OCR I was able to start a franchise. I would have never been able to do this last year.
Hurry up July 25th.

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2019-06-17 07:59:57

Hi.
Is it just me, or am I wrong that the practice section where you can practice the basics of the gameplay was left out in the beta?

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2019-06-17 10:42:08

What date is the release date for those who don't have EA access? I am also not sure which edition I will get yet, probably standard as I don't know too much about nfl.

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2019-06-17 11:32:58

I’m just going to second everything that was said on Posts 90, and 92 by Orin, and Addolis.  Well said guys.  Let’s continue the  useful feedback.  I’m also looking forward to some fun times  once the game is released. We got a little sample of that this weekend.

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2019-06-27 17:28:53

If anyone has an itch to play madden, but to anxious to wait for MXX to drop, then hop on 19, a few of us are on everyday playing

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2019-06-27 19:44:57

PS4 orXBO?

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2019-06-27 22:11:12

Xbox, from what I've seen. I know I come on for a bit at least once a day. Northernwind01 is my xbox gamertag

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2019-06-27 22:57:40

My gamertag is jukesy1992 and I am hoping to pick up a Madden game at some point, however I'd like to have a go at Samurai Shodown a bit more first. I hope to see you on the field at some point though. I might check the price of Madden 19 and go from there.

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