I mean everything. You get ridiculously low amounts of experience per zombie kill and the experience requirements get ridiculously high. Yes, you can upgrade your skills and that makes it a bit better, but I don't find that very good. It seems the best way to level is to do missions, either by yourself or with few people so you get more of the reward. There's other stuff like needing quest points or whatever to access lockers, etc. I never liked the CTF mode, it seemed way too unbalanced when someone gets pwoerful weapons and can casually take you out from a safe distance.

Just to help out if people need it;
Here are my links to grab the new version rather than going through Aprone's server. Don't wurry, He is cool with me doing this. Or at least he used to be.

I have put up the zip folder and a self installing version that for new players can be easier to use because it runs the checkup file during installation and puts a nice icon on your desktop to run it.

I have not tried it and so I will not join in the arguement but I have heard complaints that 4.0 has had it's audio stripped down to save download space but a lot of people do not like the new sounds. So i will also include retro versions with the old sounds from 3.9 if people really want those. Again I am only going on what i have heard and i do not intend any insult to the sound developer.

4.0 zip file:
www.the-badger.co.uk/swamp.zip

4.0 self installer:
www.the-badger.co.uk/SwampSetup.exe

larger versions with older sounds;

4.0 retro:
www.the-badger.co.uk/SwampRetro.zip

self installer:
www.the-badger.co.uk/SwampRetroSetup.exe

If you do not mind me asking, what is in the new version? Is it just a patch fix?

I think everybody overestimates how much quote unquote sitting you have to do in order to get anywhere. Assuming you are level one, a 10 crate mission can get you to level 10 or so where you can survive longer bouts of zombies. A 30 after that can get you to as far as 25, 30 assuming that somebody allows you to grab a crate and leaves at the very end. If not, it can probably get you through most of the teens. If you can hitch a ride for a 200, which people run on regular basis, that will most certainly put you above 30. That is two, three missions at most before you can start moving around and try and do stuff. Obviously you cannot solo, but if you have like three people on the map you’ll be OK. In minutes, this translates to anywhere between one and two hours, probably less if you are not running a 200. While I agree with people getting to a high level and not knowing what they’re doing, I just wanted to dispel the myth of you waiting for an eternity before you can actually be helpful. As an example, my first 200 crade mission with 180 death bringer zombies happened at level 80. You can probably lower that amount by a bit the more people you have on the map.

Okay, I guess I'll spell it out for ya.
I am a level 1 newbie with a Glock, a field kit, and an axe. Somebody offers to run me a 10 crates 180 db ammo. That's at most 7 minutes, and that's if the runner is really bad or the crate spawning bug decides to ruin your day. I go to the back of the truck. There's a 95-99% chance of me surviving this even if I didn't have a Glock, so just with an axe / field kit and 4 med kits (the full kit loadout) for some healing. I don't have to do anything against the swarm because the mission won't last long enough for it to be a problem. After that you an easily buy an MP5 and a few clips of ammo to last through the next, longer tussle. I fail to see your point.

Where is the 4.0 changelog?

This has been posted in post #3,698.

The shift to "trucksit or else" and the massive imbalance between having no skill points and having 5 in speed is a big part of what got me to stop playing during the 3.x era. Sneaking, exploring, tactical decisions about when to use what weapon or playstyle, the struggle to survive but without a huge barrier to bouncing back if you fail, planning and organizing on missions and being able to watch the difference between different strats in realtime... that was all fun, for me.
When things went paid, the playerbase became dominated by power players who never log out, and whose playstyle is necessarily either run around in circles for hours, sit in the safezone for hours, or find a nice swarmy place and slaughter zombies for hours. The game became nearly unplayable without following this strategy. The meta for forts, clans, and other PvP elements are less familiar to me, because the need to alternate between trucksitting and running around in circles invincibly for hours just to be able to participate was nowhere near as fun. It wasn't quite manditory, but it effectively was, and the skills created a huge imbalance that made finding a sweetspot of challenge tedious.
The SCS campaigns to simulate a less trucksitty, less circly experience lack the Finesse that the actual server and active players developed, for things like zombie and loot distribution, the sorts of player activities you'd come across, and teamwork on missions, so such campaigns only go so far.
So yeah, I don't want to sit around for hours to make the game playable, only to have to carefully figure out the ideal distribution of points to avoid skipping the fun valley and going straight from trucksitter to unstoppable superhuman. The higher level zombies might be interesting, but I never got to them before everyone started just armoring up and muting the Deathbringers to do 200 crate missions to level-farm. I don't even know what you gain from it, at that point. Prestige titles? Swapping between hardcore and normal modes more quickly? Does that help with the PvP elements?

So yeah. I appreciate how the 4.0 changelog seems supportive of playstyles other than trucksit -> circles -> slaughter.
So yeah. So yeah. So yeah. Ne?

Probably. I'm not sure if my copy of Drive on this device is giving me accurate links, but if so, https://drive.google.com/file/d/14SJ_xY … p=drivesdk

Hello to all. How long does the Capture the Flag mission last?

can someone tell me what is the name of the song used in the defender map?