who ever said shmuk, go fucking create your  own shit if your willing to do that
i dont care if i get a warning for this but, that guy deserves it
someone is previding you a free service without cost or anything and your calling them shmuk
you whining kid
yes, they maybe dont update the website do to issues they are having, but that never makes them a shmuk or what ever shit that is

@27, I don't understand what the point is of kindling that fire. Yes, name-calling is impulsive and childish, but saying things like "I don't care if I get a warning for this..." or "you whining kid..." just doesn't seem very productive. Especially when the person who said it admitted to his mistake 3 days ago. What more do you want him to do?

While I'm here, I might as well say my opinions on this situation. I could never host the site, couldn't even begin to know how. So I deeply respect anyone who can, and I respect anyone who has kids, a family, and a good stable life. I also appreciate the work that has gone into hosting this site and making it essentially the biggest resource for discussing and promoting audio games. It was the second site I knew about for audio game-related stuff (the first was l-works).

However I can understand why people are frustrated. This site is free, I'm afraid, is little excuse. Yes, hosting a site costs money, but practically the entire Internet is free so long as you pay your ISP, and many sites have less errors than this one. Even a niche site made and hosted by fans of a particular topic have a Discord server, huge forums and very frequent maintenance. Of course, many more fan-made sites crumble into dust, so the fact that this one hasn't crumbled speaks to the popularity of the site and the dedication everyone here shares to keep it alive.

With that said, there have been many topics in the site and forum feedback room which have had no response from admins. I'm not going to call specific ones out, as some of these issues have been long standing and I don't know if they occur for everyone or just me. But there still seems to be a general consensus that a fair amount of funky stuff is going on and nobody knows why, and we hear little to nothing from the webmasters until someone calls them shmucks out of frustration. Then they essentially call out the person who called them a shmuck and defend themselves, which is a very reasonable thing to do, but say little about how to address the problems we were meant to discuss. This has me a bit concerned.

I do appreciate the effort that goes into keeping the site running, but we also need people to step in and make changes to how the site works, and the current webmasters seem not to have the time or interest to do that. So I'm hoping that more webmasters can join us in future who are technologically able to do those big administrative things. I'm not at all saying the current webmasters should be booted out. They just need some assistance. And if you ask me, they deserve that assistance aj thousand times over for the wonderful work they have done and continue to do.

I hope this message reaches the right people and makes a difference.

I agree with 29. You just like flamewar. Anyway, I noticed that as well. It took me calling him a shmuck for him to answer, and he didnt even check back the forum and post replies. I know life can be challenging, but if you have the time to read that i called you a shmuck, you have time to come and comment about legal matters on your sight. The forum was in termoil and you didn't come online. I say you are a shmuck, and i get an almost instant reply. Did he even message on the mod mailing list?
Sorry if that was harsh or whatever, its my opinion.

I can infour that a wood shmuck can shmuck -10000 wood shmucks if it can't shmuck shmucks.
Anyway, no more flame wars, please? I apologised about a week now, and there is no need to reserect it. Now, earlier i saw a post from someone saying that they would gladly host the site. Maybe we could look into that. Even if we don't 100% trust the person, we could probably put up a mockaudiogames.net, have  it up for a 6 month period, slowly letting our members transition over there, and then we transfer all the info to there and boom. I know easier said than done, but lets try something. We must save this site to to the best of our abilities. We have so much info here, and ag.net has gained a cult following over the years.

I don't think there are a shortage of offers here to either host or webmaster the website; it's simply a matter of the current webmasters making the time to scope things out and make genuine effort to get a co-host at minimum. Many of us here are technically savvy enough and still others of us actually work in professional software engineering capacities. So the AG crowd is more than willing to help out but the webmasters must relinquish control for us to do so. But it's up to the webmasters to provide an avenue of contract for those interested in helping; they can't just come here and say "contact me if interested." How does one contact? Last I knew forum emails were disabled.

So if the webmasters want help, they'll ask for it; if not, they're just fine on their own. It's totally up to them since they control the database access and all that. But I say again, no shortage of talent among us in the community.

Is there a way we could move the forum to a decentralized forum? Not just rely on one server?

And moving it isn't possible... unless you want to lose approximately 159,947 user accounts, 26,847 topics, and 427,328 posts?

@40: Root access isn't required to fix most of the forum's issues. The 400 error issue, for example, I outlined a fix for in another thread. However, basic level shell access would be required, and it sounds like you're lacking in that department. Which means even if the forum needed to move for uptime reasons, good luck.

Also: Cloudflare does not a decentralised solution make. There's still a server in the backend that's hosting this thing. All cloudflare's doing is caching the content, so should uptime become an issue, at least a relatively recent version of the site will be online. ... But I suspect (well, more like I hope) you knew that already.

To the webmasters, if any of them are still paying attention here: I'm not kidding. I've offered to help out with either hosting or administrating things from a backend perspective before, when uptime and stability actually *were* issues with this site. That offer has not gone away. You've got my contact info.

To everyone else: Chill. The issues this place has are annoying, but there are more potentially site-breaking problems with the content than with the platform at present. The platform's issues, at least, can be fixed.