Oh they'll deal with it. It's true that you can't legally charge a child, but there are even exceptions for that. For one thing, if a child murders someone, given age and the like, they can rule in the courts to proceed with his trial as if he were an adult, so anything he would face, he would face the adult sentence. Also, they can throw him in a juvenile detention center, commonly called juvi, or juvenile hall. Also sometimes you can be sentenced to juvi until you're 18. In some cases, if it is a bad crime, you can be sentenced to juvi until 18, then from juvi to the penitentiary.

Also parents can be held legally responsible for the crimes their children commit.

I know it sounds fishy, that's why I am fearful in the first place. But I can't think about that anymore. I know I have some explaining to do, and possibly go through trouble because of that, but what's done is done. I have to move on and confront that when I tell them. Yes, kid is in middle school, same school as her. His parents smoke and drink a lot, so that will definitely contribute to the situation. However, substance abuse doesn't always a people, I know some people who's parent or parents have the issue but they are not like this. If the kid needs help then I hope they get him help. I just want her to be ok, and him to get an outcome to help him. As for recording, this is a self defense method, it is legal. If you feel threatened, you are allowed to get it on camera. But I think talking to the school about setting up cameras in that area should be discussed first before she starts recording. As of today, she is already at school and I think there is test, so she would have to record today and then tomorrow talk to them about caeras along the bus route. maybe seeing cameras is enough to deter him.

Are you sure the texts are not saved in the cloud somewhere as a wait before full delete measure? If the police step in, they may also get permission to grab the texts from the server which might still be their.

By the way I agree with 12 and 26, their isn't much you can do to this kid that's worse than what he's already going through, that doesn't mean you should let it slide, but as others said, piling on more abuse is only going to make it worse. I don't know how good your family life has been but if it isn't like his, you just can't really understand his mindset.

Now. Should we try getting these messages publicly known? I don’t mean tying his name to it, just using these to help raise awareness for the blind.

Well, I would be hesitant to go to the authorities too, simply because I went to a school that was extremely unhelpful when it came to these sorts of issues. In fact, in my case, teachers literally saw bullying behavior going on, but did nothing because they were uncomfortable dealing with a blind child themselves. This gave me some serious, persisting issues trusting anyone in a position of authority. I hope for your sake that they aren't like that, because I know a lot of schools try to sweep such things under the rug so that they don't lose state funding. Zero tolerance policies are usually just lip service, particularly if the bully's parents are well-known/well-liked in the community.

Having said that, you still have to try, or rather, her parents do. Going up the chain of command is the best way to be heard about anything, so that if it does become necessary to expose this to the media, you'll have that on your side, that you tried to go through all the official channels first.

As for the kid getting therapy, let's make one thing clear. While it's noble of you all to believe that he's just a little tragic, and that he can change given time, which he probably could, he still has to want to do it. Therapy can't work unless the person wants to better themselves. I'd say that even a small child receiving play therapy won't make any progress unless they bond with the therapist and see a reason to comply. Can we please not go down the slippery slope of, "abusers abuse because their lives are hard?" There very well may be truth to it, and, let's call a spade a spade here, bullying is a form of abuse, a precursor, if you will, to later domestic violence, but using a soft touch, particularly for kids who have demonstrated actual violent tendencies as this guy has clearly done, isn't the best approach. I think he might need to be scared straight, not by any form of retaliation, but by some form of punishment that sticks.

Whatever happens, I hope that this gets resolved in a manner that's suitable for all involved. In my own case, I only received some form of closure when I learned that my old elementary school, where most of the worst of the things that happened to me took place, had been closed down and demolished. The only thing that possibly could have made me happier in that scenario would have been if the place had been burned to the ground, and then the ashes pissed on. I know that's not right of me to think, but when you go through enough shit, and literally no one will help you, you don't tend to forget that in a hurry. I hope that this situation isn't quite so extreme, and that there will be people in your friend's corner to help her not only with stopping this kid, but also the aftermath of such a traumatic event.

All of the messages in post 1 ar every single one he has sent. So they were not lost, however since I am the main carrier of them, technically I tampered with it. Now onto more news, the friend is now in contact with the sister. She asked the sister if I am allowed to meet and talk with about about it along with my friend. She has agreed. This will definitely help with things, as she is the closest to her brother. I will definitely show her this thread. I do not hide this thread from people, it is becoming very important and is the easiest way to tell this story and get an idea of what people are thinking. So I will add a post when the sister and my friend and I work out a better solution. I am glad she wants to help us, and I am sure she is glad we want to help her, because apparently, he locked his sister out of the house on purpose last night. Oh, and finally I can start giving you information directly from her, so it is much better. I will ask her if she wants this thread to have no more information about her family and other things, and will ask if she would like to contribute. It's up to her.

Ok. I am talking with the sister. By the way, I double checked that my friend and this sister are not the same person. My mind wanted me to make sure that they were different people before I continue. And they are. This sister has no idea what wrong and right is, she doesn't know what options are available. This is truly sad. The brother does physically abuse her, and she has mentioned sharp objects are involved, and that can count as a weapon. So I think she has quite a story to tell and will be more than a grate help to ending this for her, my friend, and anyone else who's in that bastard's mind. I have more details, but I do not wish to give them out without permission. But wanted to give an update.

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I'm becoming very troubled by what I'm reading here, on multiple angles.

First, I'm troubled because if the abuse is deeper and more widespread than we thought, and isn't just external bullying (which is way  more than enough on its own, of course), then that's just sad, and I feel for everyone involved. However, a desire to protect your abuser is, for some, a natural outgrowth of victim behaviour. It happens because victimhood, painful and awful as it is, is a known commodity. It is something that is relatively well-understood, and if not precisely safe, it's at least familiar. Taking a wrecking-ball to it (which is what you're trying to do at the moment) is bound to produce bad results.

And that brings me to my next point. I have to say this right up front, and you may not like it. In fact, I can almost guarantee that you won't like it.

Zarvox, you are not a social worker, a child services worker, a mental health counsellor or anything else. You are, as far as I understand it, a high-school student who is enraged, sickened and disgusted by the abuse you're seeing. You want to help, and that's extremely good of you, but you are frankly not in any sort of position to decide what the best course of action is. Your prior posts in this thread have proven this beyond any shadow of a doubt. If you have been telling anyone that the only way forward is foster care, you are hugely overstepping yourself. It may be the best course, when it comes down to it, but you are not the one to make that qualification, and upping the ante that way and mentioning details like that is a really surefire way to get everyone involved to clam up. Who, after all, wants their family to spontaneously combust?
This is why there are people who go to school for interventions like this, and why it takes years before one has an appropriate touch. Your job, as a sort of civilian first responder, so to speak, is to help the people involved inform the appropriate authorities (school, parents of bullied woman, police, perhaps). That's it. Whatever happens from there is out of your hands. I cannot stress this enough. You do not have any means of saying what should or should not happen. You're entitled to your opinions, of course, but your opinions don't mean much, and shoving them on anyone at this stage is just going to make everything ten times harder.

My advice: talk to your friend, the one who's been bullied, and coordinate with her on getting adults involved. Adults outside the family to which the bully himself belongs, I mean. That is your sole area of responsibility at this stage. You are not a white knight. You are not morally obligated to save anyone. The more pou push, the more damage you will do. Please understand that I'm not saying any of this to spit on your attempts or to make you feel bad, but I am likely around twice your age, I'm studying social work, and I have seen and been part of numerous ugly situations in the past. I have the experience, both in and out of the classroom, to back up what I'm saying here. You dn't. And it's okay that you don't - nobody knows everything, not even by half - but please, please, cool your jets and take a few big steps back. Do what is truly best for these people. Don't just rush in and do what -you think is best. There is often a difference. You have let your anger and your outrage get in the way of good sense, but it may not be too late to fix things if you're careful.

I see what I have done. I have been writing in this topic, to y'all, instead of talking to parents, and other people. And I am sorry for not taking care of the solution correctly, even after multiple people have redirected me. Obviously I am not a person who should be involved in this conflict much longer. I haven't been doing what I should have, and I owe an apology to the people who I have not progressed this situation to, the right people. I should not have this situation on my hands anymore. I must tell her mom about what's happened, and then leave the rest up to everyone else who is actually involved. Plus the sister would be much much more helpful with helping this situation since she is the prime victim, I am not even a victim.

My intensions coming on here were not to be bad, or harmful, and I have to admit, I do not know what I am doing anymore. So I need to tell my friend's mom, and just let everyone else handle it. I will break contact with the sister, and my friend and I will talk about other things. This is not an appropriate topic for us to be talking about, clearly. I am not hurt by anything said here, if anything I am thankful for the honesty that has been provided. I have been using this topic to delay what I need to do, I unintensionally have taken a good conversation and turned it bad, and I, whether or not I want to admit, have disrespected everyone involved by not taking care of it like I should be, and have disrespected the people on this forum by not listening. I hope my reputation here is not completely shattered, however I can understand why people would no longer want to help me or answer any questions.

I will tell her mom and then I'm done with this situation. As for this thread, I will not be apart of the situation anymore after I tell her parents, so you will not here anymore from me, sorry for the cliff hanger. But someone requested I keep the thread for evidence, so it will still be available, plus it is a perfect example of what not to do. It could help someone in the future if they are struggling like me. I would like to that my tiny role out of the way, and not put myself in the situation again, so it is wise for me not to read anymore replies after this, so I am not tempted to jump back in. I apologize for the cliff hanger, my friend can post the solution if they feel the desire. They may decide to, they may not. I'm sorry I havelet this happened, again not just sorry to the forum, but to everyone I have delayed this progress with. I won't be distracted with this topic anymore, and I can get my small role out of the way, and then just hope for the best.