2020-02-04 16:20:15

So I was digging through MUD listings and found this. I was surprised Fed II was still going in some form, so figured you guys would like it.

What /is/ Fed II? I'ts a space game with a twist. no combat, no bitching at other players, no drama. Just you, your ship, and....oh yeah you and making money.

How's it work? You get a ship. You pay it off. You do cargo runs from place to place and make money. You die by idiotic stupidity (seriously, I walked into a room that had about 30 KEEP OUT signs and died), you progress, you get your own planet...what's not to like?

It's a great game to chill out on. You can just lose hours playing. Oh and it's 110% screenreader friendly.

So, come join in at...

play.federation2.com port 30003

No I ain't affiliated with Fed II Community. I just felt like it needed a posting here. it's a different game entirely. There's always a quest to do, hell one of the bits you get in progress needs you to quest to find areas and things.

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-04 18:18:38

Man. Didn't this thing start life as a bbs game back in the 80s? Good stuff.

Take care, it's a desert out there.

2020-02-04 18:22:45

Yes, and now the community took it ove rand have kept it going once ibgames shut down.

I'm currently spectacularlly lost, but loving the game so far. Now if I could get a slithy tove I'd get the autopilot and make money. The thing I wanna know is....can I haul cargo once I rank ot adventurer?

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 03:29:54

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be playing this one.
I can't play a MUD that has no soundpack. That's boring to me

2020-02-05 03:46:20

You're missing out on a crap ton of awesome content then.

2020-02-05 03:50:16

How am I missing out?
The soundpack makes it more exciting

2020-02-05 04:58:24 (edited by stirlock 2020-02-05 04:58:55)

By not having an imagination.  Spoiled kids.

Take care, it's a desert out there.

2020-02-05 05:09:48

LOL. I think the younger generation of people will always want sounds and stuff with their mud gaming. It's more us older players who are fine playing muds without sounds, because we had to play that way for a long time, and so got used to using our imaginations. Now I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to the rule, but in general, younger audiences do want flashier entertainment. You only have to look at the world of video games as proof -- games with flashy graphics and such sell much better than their more subdued counterparts.

Remember that all sound packs started with someone who had a passion for the mud in question. They all take time and effort to get the triggers, scripts, and sounds in place. You could be the one to start a sound pack for a game, rather than always relying on others to do it for you.

Kai

Spill chuck you spots!

2020-02-05 06:36:39

ahh fed2, I wonder if my char is still around? I remember I went into a sun and my ship went bye bye, was still fun though. How is navigating space and stuff>? haven't played in years.

:D happy to help out with games and the like... maybe :D

2020-02-05 09:27:38

a soundpack isnt evrything i agree with the others here

2020-02-05 11:51:42

@Brad:

Same Sol as ever, though I just got the navcomp software and....no it's the community edition so your old char probably isn't there. I'm currently a commander paying off that loan and working my way up to 500 hauler credits. Then the fun starts with adventuring and so on...

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 12:30:35

I've had a weird but interesting experience with muds. The first mud I played was miriani, with an excellent. I played sc, also with a soundpack, I played cr and alter also, both with their packs. Then I fell in love with fantasy muds, and found out...crap crap crap...most of these muds have either a very basic soundpack, e.g. aardwolf and materiamagica, or they have no pack at all, e.g. Asteria and A Tempest Season. Well, I was left with 2 choices, either stick to Alter for my fantasy experience or try and branch out into muds with no packs. I picked the second, and I haven't looked back since. I can't even believe that I was limiting myself on the awesome content there is with muds by demanding they have a pack. I'm not anyone's boss, nor do I desire to be, and I hope I didn't come across rude or offensive with this post, but to all those who feel they need soundpacks in their muds, I respectfully yet strongly encourage you to go try a mud or two of your favorite genre that has no pack, try the different brief/spam options and see if you like it. Love alter? Try erian or aardwolf. Love space muds, give this one a try. I haven't, and I haven't given a space mud with no pack a try yet, because I've only been playing muds with no pack for approximately six months now, but I'm looking forward to trying this. smile

2020-02-05 14:19:39

Eeeeeeek, trading and futures contracts sound ins
anely complicated. I'm still working off my loan. 50k to go or thereabouts from 99k. Sorta halfway there then

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 14:35:55

I always feel like such a cranky old lady yelling at people to get off of her lawn when people say that they won't play a mud without a soundpack.

Back in my day...

I had to walk up muds both ways with telnet and not realizing that I could have turned on local echo in preferences to be able to read what I was typing. All we had was a sword and no spoon!

I will try Fed 2 again. Without the navigation system that you can get with some toads, how did you find the space navigation on its own?

2020-02-05 14:54:56

It's easy once you grab the text map Cosmo has put up, I forget exactly where it is, but he's apparently happy to give out toads if you ask and explain why. I just asked om com for a toad to get navcomp and he gave me one no problems.

I actually like mixing up manual flying and navcomp, like I get ad at navcomp for making me late to the roids, so I manually flyi around or manually do short hops from say, Earth to Mercury, which is  astraight shot. Or navcomp to Titan and then manually fly to the link, and manually poke around systems

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 15:04:40

So, here's the story... I'm as old as some of you and I didn't really have my own PC until I was 21; that was o9.  Everything I'd played up until that point came across a console, had graphics, and, yes, dare I say it, sound.  Even 8bit sound is still sound, no matter how poor a representation of a sound it may be.  I didn't encounter text games until I visited this site for the first time.
I like browserbased games and did my fair share of messing around with LOGD and Dragon Tavern and a few others beside.  On Ios?  I've only played 4 or 5 games that have sound in them; diceworld, mousekick and bop-it come to mind.  Other than that, all of them are text!   I loved nano empires, all text, a few minutes of glory, all text, Evelyn's farm, all text, and on the PC I honestly grew fond of fallen worlds which became ravaged worlds and I don't know if its still kicking around... I say again, all text.
The text is more or less consistent; it does not scroll across my screen at a million miles a second and require me to raise my speech rate to 200 percent, which would be absolutely no good to me for two reason:
1.  I'm a hearing impaired screen reader user.
What, you really wanted a number 2?  I said two reasons!  They're on the sides of my head!  Seriously!  It's made understanding speech hard at faster rates!  I have my speech set at 50 at present and can barely get away with stuff as is!  And you want me to add scrolling text to that just so I can be a good gamer by your standards?  No, you don't make me feel welcome, and you don't make me feel any further accepted when you say I'm a spoiled brat because I want sound to keep up with you, speedreader.

When life gives you oranges, demand lemons since everyone else is obviously getting them.

2020-02-05 15:10:54

@Nocturnus: I disagree in this specific case.

For Fed 2, you do not need to speed read. Okay, some MUD you do. But not this one because it is a slower pace. Ther's no spammy combat, there's no billion lines of spam when you do an action. You can just walk out of the room, and review the text at your own pace. You get two lines of text, that's all. You get easy to understand things that are clear and simple.

For instance

Status report for your Harrier class spaceship
  Registered in Panama
  Hull strength:  15/15
  Shields:        0/0
  Engines:        40/40
  Computer:
    Level:        1/1
    Nav Upgrade:  yes
    Sensors:      0
    Jammers:      2
  Cargo space:    75/75
  Fuel:           80/80
  Weapons installed:
    None
You don't currently have a shipping contract.



That's all simple, easy to understtand. There's only a few areas in the game with text that could be conisered spam (two rooms on Mars with constantly arriving/departing hoppers)

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 15:13:37

Because you were willing to describe it as such, I'll willingly try it.  I hope it is as you say and if I come across anything else that is an issue, I sincerely hope I am given a fair hearing on this topic.  smile

When life gives you oranges, demand lemons since everyone else is obviously getting them.

2020-02-05 15:17:06

Okay one more possibly spammy thing. When you start and push the button. However, you can just ask on comms.

I'll suggest you keep the guide open at federation2.com/guide and work through it at your own pace as well

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 17:16:51

Text maps are here:

https://federation2.com/guide/#sec-20.200

For getting started, Earth one, keep going south, east, then find the GA office, elevator, bribe the hell outta the poor official, then back to the shipyard, buy yer ship, and get familiar with the Sol map

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers

2020-02-05 18:12:54

I think what's being said is, don't limit yourself to sound pack and if you really want one... consider making it.
Quite honestly I tried a sound pack and had to kill it, gave me some lag and it was like getting directions during a 3-alarm fire. I put in the sounds I want for the things I want.

Every day is a good day!
When life gives you a lemon, make lemonade!
Opinions are like arseholes - everybody has one, and they all stink.

2020-02-05 19:08:04

Not everyone's scripting and programming savly, either... I wish I were, but I know I'm not.  I'm working through Darter's python tutorials, but I know me, so if I don't learn a single freaking thing I can't blame it on him.
Right now I"m actually having an issue with my command line telling me absolutely nothing, or at least, not telling my screen reader the way it's supposed to.  I get no output for any information whatsoever, which is rather irritating.

When life gives you oranges, demand lemons since everyone else is obviously getting them.

2020-02-05 19:30:40

Maybe I'll give it a go then

2020-02-05 20:54:47

Ever since i actually got a working mud client in 2010, i've been tempted to try fed 2 because of the exploring. I'd start to read the manual and read up on activities, and thinkg "hay this is cool!"
Then I'd get into futures trading and creating a company and my head would spin and I'd think "hay do i really want to do this?" big_smile.

I also didn't know the game had any quests.

On the text issue, I definitely appreciates Nocturnus point given his situation, and I'm not a fan of super fast spammy text either.

That said, I will confess I get a little irritated by the amount of people who want sound in muds because sound is exciting and refuse to play without.

I love sound, I love atmosphere and music and all those cool things, and yes, I also grew up with graphical 16 bit era games which had awesome sound and music. However muds are at rock bottom text games, you type commands, you read text, if you don't want to play text games, don't play muds, and don't expect every new mud to have a soundpack, because, well muds are text games!

To me, a soundpack is like dessert after dinner. A good thing if it's there, and certainly I'd always enjoy it if possible, but I'm not going to do myself out of dinner just because there is no dessert.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2020-02-05 21:24:13 (edited by JaceK 2020-02-05 21:26:06)

@Dark:

I've been adventuring, and am currently totally and utterly lost tryiing to get somewhere. On the other hand I've seen people helping new folks out and an overall chilled out and community aspect to the game. No PVP, no griping about how people are beating you. Everyone's helping out. You need a slithy tove? Just ask. need help ranking? People are posting jobs all the timne if you ask.

Also yes there's one quest, the whole game is one long quest if you want to look at it like that, but having got to adventurer just now, I am loving the exploring aspect of it. Honestly wish I could keep doing the aketuri past ranking up and merchant trading

EDIT: I mean that the higher ranked players are setting lower ranked players up with futures and helping them out with good vs bad trades and suchlike

Warning: Grumpy post above
Also on Linux natively

Jace's EA PGA Tour guide for blind golfers