Exactly, and it sucks to watch them, it sucks to see them damaging themselves like that, we've done it to them collectively, and they don't even realize its being done. They're almost hypnotized to be blind to it, but you see it. My dad's wife, she'll die, she is literally going to drop dead one day, because she goes 110 miles an hour and won't stop. She has to be on blood pressure meds, but her bp is still high. She cooks these dinners, and she's like literally the best cook I know, but still, I'd rather her not cook the dinners if it means pushing her that much closer to a stroke or heart attack. I'm talking about the big ones for the holidays, she's OK with like making dinner for 3 or so people. My dad tries to help, but she won't let him, and then she gets frantic and starts saying why doesn't anyone help me, so he goes and helps. It's a repeated cycle and she doesn't even realize its happening. She has other issues, like her previous relationship was a bad one, but it happens to other women as well.

If your man don't wanna help you, like he just wanna sit on his ass and watch TV or sit there playing black ops 3 or some shit all damn day, then dump his ass. I don't know how to fix this. I have ideas that might work with some of our country's problems, but I don't know how to fix this one. I know how quick death can come. My buddy's dad died of a massive heart attack. He was just carrying something from the kitchen into the living room to put away in the china cabinet, and then down he goes. They tried to revive him, CPR all the way, despite the fact he had DNR paperwork all over the damn place, but no go. His heart was damaged from other things though, eh had diabetes, and 4 or 5 previous cardiovascular events. But she... my dad's wife, she's otherwise healthy, but she feels this need to be the superhero of the family and there's literally no need for that. It's an imbalance, not the way to deal with the situation. My mom and aunt, they can cook dinners and yeah maybe get stressed out or something but not really, not anywhere to the extent my dad's wife does.

I'm reminded of Ernest Hemingway explaining his eventual suicide by saying that being alive without being able to enjoy it, not because of civilization, but because of biology, wasn't worth it. The old people I've known who did relax in their later years died slow, agonizing deaths. Those who didn't ... most are still alive, but those who aren't went pretty quickly and largely on their own terms. One grandmother specifically said she didn't want to go out like her mother did, saying that she'd lost her dignity. It's less that any of them have/had something to prove, so much as they wanted to live as long as it was a net positive experience. And for many people, that means being active.
I get that. I'd much rather be doing something than be made to sit in the corner because people are terrified of the blind person hurting themself. I don't see that changing, regardless of what health risks time adds.
When it turns into the person stressing themselves out, or if there are "straightforward" ways to mitigate the risk without significantly reducing activity, and said things are not being done, then, yeah, that's a problem that oughtn't to be ignored. Mostly, though, it reminds me of the nurse from that one episode of The Snorks, screaming at everyone with the plague to relax (including the doctor who could cure it if he could get back to work).

@29 Being active isn't really the issue, that's fine, nothing wrong with that, and I agree with you that people who have worked all their lives just can't stop without suffering for it, usually leading to a rapid decline followed by death. But this is different, it's an unhealthy level of activity brought on by stress and a constant fear that you're not living up to society's expectations of you.

Most feminists - the ones representative of the movement as a whole - will not scream at men about this issue. The closest they come is to say that it is just as much up to men to fix this as it is up to women. And I agree completely. We men should ask where help is needed, should make an effort to do some of this housework and whatnot so women aren't just stuck with it. Some women really do react badly to this, but the fair majority I've spoken to are actually supportive and don't mind helping a man pick up the slack (which is to say that yes, there's still a bit of a cultural divide on this issue, men are not often taught as thoroughly as women when they're young). For that matter, men should try and teach other men, and not just make it a women's issue. I do agree that it's not always ideal, the setup we see these days.

I'd also like to believe that most feminists are reasonable people,  but third wave (or what some are calling fourth wave) feminism is mainly online, so all those one sided posts where men get raked over the coals as a hole for everything with no real responsibility given to women, or winy complaints about near non issues like manspreading and perceived microaggressions getting tens of thousands of likes or retweats don't give me that much confidence about the current state of the movement.
It's always nice to know that more mature women will be their to shout them down, but it seems like their voices get carried away by the storm.
I'd hope their just letting out their frustrations and that they wouldn't act like that in real life? but that kind of mental poison isn't helping anyone and the more attention it gets, the more impressionable young women, and men too will be exposed to it and start thinking it's reasonable.
Same shit happens with the rabid anti SJW media.

I think it's more likely that a younger woman would appreciate the help around the house for sure, but I'm talking about people growing up with mother's in their 40s who don't want to teach them or at least never feel the need to prompt it, and I've seen that allot my self. Even so it's obviously not as bad as it would be another generation back from that...
It just shouldn't have to be the job of a guy's girlfriend/wife to teach him these things, even if their both open to it. It's a good thing that they are, but it would be even better if more people were raised that way before adulthood.
And this is just the highly developed world we're talking about too of course... Most parts of the world are still behind on this concept. Or more like they have specific, deeply ingrained rolls because their both working hard labor jobs and living off very little still, both having to pull their own weight in different ways. Which is the same reasoning behind how older generations act here of course...
It's easy to look back on previous generations with scorn for their (unenlightened ways) from a place of security... One which they fought for us to have. It's one of the most fucked up parts of society IMO.