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Hi, I think NVDA's gone on long enough that we should be able to change the beep sounds to something more plecent to listen to.
JAWS and I think Android have nice dings, where as NVDA is still stuck with beeps. It might just be me but I'd love to have new sounds because these ones can wake up my family if I play them outside of headphones.
open an issue on github where in you can explain every thing regarding this beeps to the developpers.
@ashleygrobler04, I'll do that. I didn't think of that 
hahaha Good luck
@ashleygrobler04, well I can't report anything at the moment because of the backlog of issues they have to sort through but I will.
you can replace the sounds with those you wan't
replace it under nvda installation directory and boom. use same filenames as nvda uses.
for example, to start nvda, there is start.wav. use a wav file that you wan't and rename it to start.wav. place in nvda directory. and your done
That doesn't work, because NVDA's beeps are synthesized, meaning they aren't just wav files you can replace.
Not sure honestly how to go about changing this. I mean, I guess you could have wav files for each of the positions of a progress bar, but then you'd still be left with speech mode beeps, and mouse position beeps if play audio coordinates is on. And indentation beeps if you have that enabled. So, it seems impractical to switch them all to wav files.
hmm, wait. is he talking about progress bar? then there's no way to change. because nvda uses winsound module to generate those beeps. they change freequency
so, there's no way to change winsound's sound. and when i say winsound, it's programmer side.
so, python it self generates the beep. so, i guess mey bee they use costum sound. and, you can tun off those beeps and use speech instead. using insert u
@8, he does not want to turn off the beeps, he wants to change them. and technicly, the beeps are produced by python and your sound card...
Ah, so it can't be done?
That's ok, at least I know now
No, changing the beeps can't be done unless they add in a completely new way of producing the beep sound. Not saying they won't... but all the same I wouldn't get your hopes up too quickly.
You might be able to make them more tolerable by messing with the frequency and changing the waveform type, though i'm not exactly sure how you'd go about doing this.
They're generated then the remote helper process chops the tops off the waveforms.
The tone generation is part of the NVDA helper, which is written in C++. I believe at one point it was a sine wave, but it was changed because it was hard to hear on some laptop speakers.
You can change it by modding the 'sampleRate' variable in tones.py and running from source (maybe). Speaking of the helper though, I still wonder how it communicates with NVDA itself.
nah, I'll leave all that stuff alone and just use NVDA u to switch between whatever I like at that time.
It's not a clean waveform though. It's not a sine, but it's not a triangle either. It's some weird amalgamation of the two.
Just listen to how aliased tones.beep is.
Oh and remember the freakyfwoof pack that got killed because a couple people couldn't keep their stupid fucking bitch whore mouths shut? That. NVAccess, in their infinite wisdom, decided it would be advantageous to down sample sounds that were less than a second a piece to 22K, even though the savings is not appreciable. They sited some bullshit reason about wanting to have it available in less developed countries, but there's no science behind their shit because if there was, they'd get the fact that doing that did jack shit except caused those beautiful sounds to not mix well with 22K voices.
@18. According to the discussion in this issue, it's a square wave with sloped edges.
@20, What are you on about?
The sound pack Freakyfwoof made for NVDA, that was actually really well done but people couldn't stop bitching, so NvAccess axed it.
I am curious, though, how do you accomplish the same with JAWS without scripts? I can only find a how frequently it should speak progress option.
@GrannyCheeseWheel Oh, so there's no way I can see what it would have sounded like?
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