2020-11-07 13:24:38

Hi community,
I was using Jarte a few minutes ago, when my computer unexpectedly powered off. Completely. At first I wasn't sure what the issue was, but I looked at the reliability troubleshooter and found that Jarte had stopped working before each power off, leading me to think that Jarte was somehow the issue. I went to the Scripts folder of the appdata, and found Jarte Script Helpers.ahk. I ran it out of curiosity, and my computer powered off again. I noticed that documents were in the crash recovery folder, and Jarte was currently open at the time as I tried to run that file again (this time removing the crash recovery documents) and Jarte remained open. I'm posting this here because I believe the software is abandonware now, but has anyone else experienced this? If there's no way around this issue, what other programs would you suggest that are similar?

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2020-11-07 15:35:14

Jarte has never crashed once for me, in all of the four or so years I've been using it, across 3 machines. I'm not saying that it's not the issue, but I highly doubt it.

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2020-11-07 16:52:58

Well that's interesting. The reliability troubleshooter doesn't have anything else, so is there an effective way of finding the sauce of the issue?

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2020-11-07 19:28:11

user-mode apps can't power off your system by crashing.  They can power off your system by explicitly calling the function for that, but not by crashing.

More likely whatever is causing system instability is taking out Jarte on the way down, but before Window's event tracking stuff turns off.

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2020-11-07 19:31:04

Yeah, sounds like a hardware issue. We're talking about a hard power off, right? As in, just boom, gone, not a normal windows shutdown.

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2020-11-07 19:45:58

What is this thing?

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2020-11-07 23:04:32

A text editor that I didn't even know was still around.

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2020-11-08 08:14:39

grammerly is ok for a replacement I guess. but you can't do much on the free account.

2020-11-08 15:24:00

Meh, I don't care how old something is. If it works, I'll use it. If there's something newer and better, I'll probably switch. Both libre office and open office are crashy little hot messes on Windows. Also supposing I use ms office and pay for the subscription. I definitely ain't using it for work purposes, so the only thing I need is literally the word processor and the spell checker, that's literally it. Google docs, I'm just not a fan of their editor. It jumps and skips around, and reads things twice sometimes. So good ol' reliable Jarte is where it's at. Takes like two seconds to start, and I feel that's screen reader mode more than anything else. It's just enough to do what I need.

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2020-11-08 16:50:53

@ironcross32 (post 5) is correct. It's a hard power off. After examining it happening after uninstalling Jarte, I guess I can say that wasn't the issue. The problem is founding out what the issue actually is. A USB port on my computer seems to be a little loose, and I've noticed that when devices have been plugged in there, a power off occurs some time afterwards.

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