I personally feel like AHC was too easy exactly because of the guidance. I think that Manamon's system combined with a topdown view of the map could be amazing for exploration. No lists, just an ability to stop and use a camera to explore the current room.

That’s exactly my problem. I do not want to use reflexes in order not to bump into people.

but everyone uses their reflex in a way, even sighteds do.
i dont think a sighted person think like, oh there is a person right in frunt of me, lets not bump in to them
it starts to happen automaticly by the spinal cord

HI: This question seems to be mostly a matter of opinion. I personally like AHC's navigation system, especially because you can bookmark important locations; I truly wish this was available in the Manamon games. A for bumping into thing? Well, I Manamon I do that quite a bit; not so mch in AHC unless I want to pick something up.

Part of those games is the exploring.  Some are just better at it then others. A list would be terible to have when entering a room, and as for autiomatic transport to an item, person, or place would be sucky.

UM. AHC has exactly what you wanted, plus audo turning functionality. And those of you who are going on about how the AHC system is to easy, many games, mainly FPS's offer this feature. GTA for example autowalks to the taxi, or a car if you want to steal it. Fortnight, allows you to autoaim and my list could go on and on, and yada yada yda. and blah, blah, blah.

Personally, I love the way Manamon works when it comes to exploring because of the detail involved. It seems good to be able to look around and really see what's there as that is something that in many video games like this we wouldn't be able to easily do. I also liked the way A Hero's Call worked as there were some things that were featured which made navigation really easy. I guess you could say that I like both, but for different reasons. One thing I will say, and many of you who have played Manamon and Manamon 2 can certainly see where I am coming from here, is that you don't want to be in a hurry at all times when going through these games. I just learned that the hard way yesterday when playing Manamon 2. I thought I was in the clear in this one area, so I just had my character run through the place where I was. Next thing I knew, half of my team was wiped out because I wasn't paying attention to the fact that there just might be traps in the area. I also really like the idea that you have to look along the walls for hidden items as it tends to make things more interesting.

Shadow Line is amazing. BK3 is pretty good as well, though it's a side-scroller and far less immersive overall.
AHC is good as well.
Manamon/Paladin of the Sky are perfectly serviceable, but they definitely add mazing (or so I'm gonna call it for now) to the exploration system. They are trying to emulate a Pokémon-esque feel, but it doesn't quite work. Because while you can hear nearby objects, there are many situations where you won't know there's a path in the northeast corner of an open area unless you go there. That's why the doctrine of "follow walls" is so prevalent with games like this.
Ultimately, I don't mind it, but I don't think it's amazing, either. Having no idea overall what your map looks like is kind of annoying. And Aaron is infamous for making areas with big long twisty dead ends just...because. Apparently that makes the game harder. No, Mr. Baker, it just makes the game longer, and more annoying.

Honestly, the only thing I'd change about AHC's navigation is that on all difficulties except "easy", I'd remove the ability to warp back to beacons. That, or I'd put it behind a fairly involved side-quest. It's too simple to go deep into the mine/forest/graveyard, collect loot, get low on health, then just teleport out, essentially.

Partially what makes AHC's navigation difficult for me is the open space sound. While it's a good sound that indicates it, it, it's quiet enough and at the frequency that I lost in my hearing, which makes it difficult. I know that I need to go north from the lake in AHC to find the trap door in the mines, but I just cannot fn theopen passages to get past it.

But see, I'll tell you something.
In manamon, you might be in a room with eight or nine little one-tile-wide passages in the north wall. One of them leads onward, the others are all dead ends that are at least twelve tiles long (i.e., you will have to try and see, unless you happen to know which path to take ahead of time). So a player not used to the area is going to do something like this: go north into passage 1, go all the way to the end just in case there's a side path at the end, find the dead end, come back, move a little to one side or the other, try the next path, repeat ad nauseum. If there are no hidden items in the area - ind in most areas which do this, there aren't - then you will spend anywhere from twenty seconds to three minutes just trying dead ends till you stumble on the one you want. This is not difficult. It simply eats time.
A person playing pokemon, however, if they came across a room like that, would probably be able to see, after only a step or three into a path, "Oh oops, wait, this is a dead end", and then backtrack out. What's more, they will have a more holistic way to view the map at once, so if they see that the next part of the map appears to be north and vaguely east-ish, they're going to have the idea that the right path is easterly, and this will vastly shorten the time. Pokémon only very rarely uses mazes to increase its difficulty.