@23, do you know what FUD is? Its fear, uncertainty and doubt. And your quite happily spreading the UD part of it. Fear? Perhaps not. But uncertaintyand doubt? Yep, you just keep on trying to spread misinformation and falsehoods everywhere you go. If your trying to get banned, its definitely the way to get what you want. If your trying to unseat the admins, or show how supposedly superior you are, your definitely not giving off that impression. If your refering to my post -- post 19 -- and thinking that I was calling Audiogame a child, I was not calling him a child; I was informing him that he was acting like one. Huge difference. If your not refering to my post in particular, then please inform us as to which post your talking about; I'm sure there's a far more reasonable explanation that is not only logical but not full of nonsense and misinformation that clearly indicates, to me at least, that you hold a vendetta or desire to remove, hinder, or otherwise discredit the admins and mods. Must I remind you that you are committing character assassination? If you actually do have a problem with what the admins and/or mods are doing, there are far more eloquent and rational ways of indicating such, without assassinating their character or reputation in the process.

Can we ban audio game?

If you like my petition, give me a thumbs-up. Might as well be a karma whore, because I already know the mods won't ban him. But seriously, give me a thumbs-up if you agree.

1. The great majority of this forum does not agree with that sentiment, so good luck with that.
2. You are not going to get very far on the acceptance scale with that kind of selfish attitude.

You are correct, that is indeed your choice to act like you're 12. What is not a choice is the consequences you may obtain as a result.

1. Even using the proper term would not have boosted your credibility, but oh well.
2. Although what Zarvox is doing is not a ban evasion as you call it, I do remember a thing or two about ban petitions not exactly being the way about going things. Particularly when you don't present hard evidence as to why. I mean forget the fact that we all kind of know exactly where you're going, it just looks more professional if you yourself bring up a trail of evidence if you re going to bring forth a request such as that to the moderators. Speaking of:
3. You've got a real nerve coming here and making an attempt at trying to, evade? the fact that your own actions are precisely what is causing the sentiment people such as Zarvox expressed. Particularly when you don't even have a clean record. While I did just mention ban petitions, I don't think being not only apathetic to you getting called out, but also condescendingly hypocritical towards the one that called you out, is the best idea.
Also, this is for both of you, another good reason why a ban petition is not necessary is that sentiments have been already expressed by the mods,

from this topic from six months ago
Safe to say your attitude has not changed. Especially considering you always seem to conveniently jump on the soapbox when it comes to discussions pertaining to clones. Reminds me of that Abdulrommen guy who showed up in any of the Quentin C Playroom ban evasions thread, but with more understandable writing.

Moderation:
Audiogame, now you're just trolling. This necessitates a warning. I told you we would be considering your continued presence here, and I wasn't joking. At this point, you seem hell-bent on stirring shit up just for the sake of it, so that's warning-worthy in my opinion. I am going to be taking this to list to see if this warning will escalate into further action.

Oh, and, uh, guys? It is not specifically a rule, but if you are absolutely 100% certain that person A is evading a ban, and you aid them in doing so by not helping us figure out who they are, and if we find out that you were part of this, it might go badly for you. This is generally referred to in legal parlance as "obstruction of justice". If you have evidence that would help us deal with people on the forum we've previously found problematic and who we don't want here, and you don't step forward, you realize you're sort of part of the problem, right?

@32, I have no words for the shear level of stupidity and childish attitude displayed in this post. What a shining example of how to nullify your own argument or credibility!

I didn't say "parliament", I said "parlance". There is a distinct difference. Perhaps a dictionary is in order before you criticize me further?

The reason that people should ostensibly be willing to help us find ban evaders is twofold. First, as I already pointed out, if we know you helped them by keeping quiet, it can go badly for you. Second and much more important, it would be nice if the rest of you folks actually gave a rip about this community enough to want to protect it from people who are evading bans. If we have banned them, we've done so for a very good reason, after all, so unless you have some enormous reason to disagree with a ban, I can't see how it's not in the interest of the community itself to come forward with information if you've got it. You say that you get nothing? I say that you can be proud to know that you're keeping the forum a better and perhaps safer place.
And as for how many of us there are? It depends, really, as to how much you think that matters. There are thousands of policemen in the country of Canada, but crime is everywhere. The fact is, there will always be far, far more users than staff, and in this sense, the microcosm of the forum is reflective of the macrocosm of real life. Police have tip lines and such to help track criminals down, and it's not reasonable to expect even highly trained officers to catch every instance of illegal activity. In other words, your argument is busted.

Um, there you go deriving your own interpretation of the message.

We all know that, and that's fine, except what I was saying was that a great majority wants a calm forum, and those people will not take kindly to someone standing in the way of that.

You do you, but we aren't talking about what you do off forum if that's where you were going with that.

Again you're missing the point. Of course you can still act it. What you aren't guaranteed to be able to do is still act it and be immune to any possible mod intervention.

The point I was trying to make was concerning how low your credibility already was, so much so that using the proper term wouldn't really help your cause. No need to go correcting it now - you've already shown us where you stand and that it's clear you're not changing that.

You're right, not your fault, but what is your fault is the actions that cause mod intervention regardless of when it happens. And just because someone may have done something that the mods missed does not mean they got away with it entirely. The content you post on the internet has at least a grain of immortality. Even if you press what some may think is the "Delete this topic and cause everyone I personally attacked to forget I ever personally attacked them and cause the moderators never to see this topic so they can never take action based on the content therein so I can get by with murder button," there is a chance that someone has archived it and has it ready. For every action there will be a reaction. What's more these topics are googleable, so someone could find posts that can have a paper trail leading back to you. It so happens to not be as easy in your case since you've anonymyzed your actual name, but that's just a testiment to cowardice if you hide behind a username and keyboard to cause destructive actions on the forum.

I, don't even know how to respond to that, other than to say you seem to be interpreting only parts of the message. And again, no one can force you to change, but people can show you the door if it's clear that you not changing harms our community.

I'm not posting off topic messages. No I don't see because I'm blind. Thank you.
And I didn't catch the difference. So what. I'm not the only one who messed up in correcting. And it sucks that there are just too many of us for yall to handle jayde. That's what it sounds like to me.
Next?

@Ethin: Good point, didn't know if the internet archive backed up the database or not.

@41, OMG WTF! Yes, your, uh, posting off-topic messages. And you only paid attention to the very last part of the definition. What about the other part? Creating discord on the internet by starting quarrels? In sum: yes, you are *trolling*. Dsagree with that? Then give me a *logical* reason why.

The false parts of my message? OK, have fun in that illusionary world of yours. Sorry, there were no 'parts' of that definition. Just because you take a definition and split it into "parts" does not invalidate it. I second the motion to ban audiogame; he can try and be a god on his own forum and moderate 100-percent of the time (without doing *anything* else, including sleeping, eating, etc., because then your only moderating 99 percent of the time) and he can "supposedly" be abetter mod than people 2-3 times his age. And hey, if he achieves that, well... I'd love to see how he acomplishes that... it would be revolutionary! /s

If you can do this all day, I likely won't. It's not worth continuing to convince someone knowingly arguing in bad faith, and besides this thread has already gotten mod attention so we'll just have to see what happens. Besides,

that tells us all we need to know, and did you really have to use that word?
@Ethin: Some threads are backed up by the internet archive, but a great many fall through the cracks. Not a huge issue since those threads are archived by the forum, but to people who decide to run a forum in future it is certainly not an appropriate backup method. External hard drives and a good backup plan from your hosting provider? Now we're talking.