ironcross32 wrote:You really do not understand even the rudiments of human psychology, do you.
Frankly I don't get the point of such posts. That kind of tone isn't gonna ' give the guy a flash of insight to ponder the rudiments of human psychology. It's just going to trigger his defense impulses, which I dare say is another rudiment of psychology, and make him mad. That's just going to make his reputation worse than it is. I imagine some people couldn't care less about that, but it just feels wrong to me. We've seen time and time again how these posts are taken, and at best the remark is ignored, at worst it turns into a mess for all involved. But ya know, I'm weird, maybe I'm not getting something here.
@Dan_Gero I'm going to try and explain what Carter was saying in a way that doesn't fire you up. The rest of you can ridicule me for having the patience, but whatever.
First thing's first, I do get where you're coming from, but this just sounds like you're frustrated and doesn't seem like a real problem. In post 1, I counted no more than 2 times you said people were bothering you about something in the past year... Well this year is almost over, so in 10 and a half months, you've been bugged by two people, which is hardly worth noting. then later you come in and say it's happening all the damn time which creates contradiction. Yes, you don't have to detail every occasion this has happened to make your case known, but the way you have written it, it more or less sounds like you are just getting mad at normal activity.
If someone is bothering you by e-mailing, Skyping, then Facebooking you, let them know that you have received their messages and that you would greatly appreciate it if they left it go until you had a chance to respond. That only takes a few seconds to do, and preferably, you would acknowledge you got their message before it got to that point. Just a simple e-mail response saying "I'll check into it when I have more time" speaks volumes, and by the sound of it, you didn't do that. You might argue that you shouldn't have to, but... I think this is probably what Ironcross was getting at... if you say nothing, the psychological message is conflicted. The person doesn't know ' if you A, read their message, B, are using another account so didn't get their message, or C, care about their message. In any of those cases, they are, for better or for worse, likely going to pester you until they get some acknowledgement from you. Now, if you've told them you've seen their messages, said you'll get back to them, asked them to kindly leave you be for a bit, and they continue to harass you on a daily basis, and you've done everything you can to stop them from bothering you or to get away from them, and they just continue to harass you, then we have a problem. But until you can convince me that is indeed the truth, I am going to believe that impatient people are just being impatient people and you're just going to have to quietly deal with it like everyone else does. If you really are annoyed with them, use that block button. It's there for that reason. But that imho is more callous than just ignoring the messages, which seems to be what you're doing. I myself only use the block button when people seem unable to hear a simple request to leave me alone or stop doing something I find particularly annoying. For the record, I can't even remember the last time I had to block somebody for being annoying, since if it got bad enough I would just keep my distance from them and let them know I saw their message but can't get to it for a while. So long as I followed through and actually did respond at some point, they normally came to understand that I in fact did see their messages and would get to them, so they would eventually stop being so persistent after they built up some trust that I wasn't callously casting them aside. I think trust is key here, or at least part of the key.
Yes, I get it that people don't look before they message you, that you said "please use topics X and Y to ask these questions," and they pester you about it anyway. I know that can be annoying but it happens all the time, and like I say, quietly dealing with it is probably the best thing to do. The way I see it, there's standing up for yourself in a time of real harassment, and then there's venting out your frustration on people who probably don't deserve much of it. I'm not going to take sides here on how you're coming off since the community will likely take care of that nicely, and besides I don't know you very well. But I'll say this much: posting in fits of frustration and anger is something I'm noticing more in you, and it rarely does any good. Of course, when people say things you don't want to hear, that gets you fired up, and you post in angry retaliation, which just makes things worse. I caution you to be careful as I see this turning into another pointless flame war. But I do hope to be proven wrong.
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