Hi guys,
liam wrote:Now I want to point out something else to you guys that you don't think about, realize, or probably care about. This forum and website whether we like
it or not are viewed through a microscope. It is where mainstream companies go for information and advice about accessibility for blind gamers. I will
not name names, but I am going to tell you that already one some what important figure in the accessibility community has written off this forum as a waste
of their time. I constantly seeing people lament about how they want access to mainstream games, well this forum is your best chance of making it happen,
but when there are all these pointless topics and infighting, that drives people away.
Having ADV on here, or links to them here I don't think would be a problem for 99% of the developers that come across this forum or turn them away, because honestly like I said, most people and this includes blind people aren't aware of audio description, and having them access to such isn't something people are likely to frown upon, or look at it and be like, omg! this site's forum has a user or users that share audio described movies,and how they aren't making the dots and crossing the t's of all the laws and so its a den of piracy and lets run away as fast as we can!
As to the accessibility expert/ person that you are talking about, it was mostly due to dark's character assasination topic and all the poison that came out after that, that things like you said came about to be said
I will repeat again what I have said, be flexable and reasonable to the best extent possible as long as no one is being harmed, don't be overly harsh but don't go as far as allowing links every and anywhere to cracks softwares and the like.
Its hypocritical, yes, but what the hell.
liam wrote:see an allowance being made if the transmission of audio-only versiosn of TV shows and movies did not break any copyright laws. I've asked for someone
to show me concrete proof it doesn't, but people like Grryf fall back on the morality argument
Why should it be only allowed if it meets all the copywrite law requirements? its been this way for 14 15 years (probably longer) and hasn't been a problem , and as long as it has a easy solution, why create a fuss.
and to be honest, why we or I often fall back upon morality as an argument is very simple. Laws, the ones that ought to be followed anyway, ought to be tempered with morality. Like
I do not make a single $$ or cent or whatever the hell you will through the vault for my own personal use, its of no benefit (financially anyway) to me, and I give it my time, energy and money along with many others, there's a simple reason for it. We don't do it because a law tells us to do it (at all of you that are intent upon following each and every bloody letter of the law as if it were you that had the soul bloody responsibility that they were indeed followed without any other consideration), but we do it because we believe it to be the right thing to do, and something worth doing.
like flackers said,
flackers wrote:I don't buy this idea of a sudden need for zero tolerance.
I personally would rather make a stand for what I view as correct and see how it pans out than have this strict adherence to the rules. Not one person
has tried to make the case that the vault is immoral, so why are we suddenly so keen to adhere to a rule that in that context has no moral worth? Laws
are just formalised principles. If we don't agree with the principle, and no one is forcing this upon us, why force this law on ourselves?
Getting to g97's being a lawyer topic and fernishing all the ethins in here with proof, there's 2 ways you can take this.
1, focus on what he said and with him being a lawyer or not be based on your beliefs. No one is forcing you to believe it, but he uses it as an aditional prop if you will to back what he said up. Any sensable person would go, read his post, if they disagreed or found what he said to be wrong would go and do a little research and than agree or disagree with him and proove why what he said is not correct.
Rather than go, oh yeah? what you said is hard to believe, I don't think you are as old as you say you are at this point, do you mind showing me your birth certificate? on a public forum where anyone and everyone's dog has access to it?
2. just focus on the first thing I am a lawyer and forget the rest, and ask him to tell you his / her house address so that you can visit and check yourself.
I think if the mods and admins were to focus more on dealing with trolls, and people saying what they want about any other user on here, I.E rosts or topics where a user is insulted/ called all sorts of names the forum would have a better environment/ image, rather than stearing up a hornets nest for nothing, my analogy/ phrase maybe a bit off here was never good with them.
Grryf
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