hi mason
why you likes discontinuing the projects?

I'm posting in here not with advice, no. It's to say farewell. Farewell SBYW, farewell all the maps I've built, farewell. Am I sad that SBYW is going down? Yes. Do I want it to stay up in the first place? That one is a toss up for me. I do and I don't, for multiple reasons which I'll keep to myself. Have I expected this? Totally, a couple of weeks ago, actually. Will I play Mason's games in the future? Nope, probably not. What will I do now that SBYW is gone? Nothing. I'll move on, probably build myself a builder like SBYW and play around with 3d stuff, but that's it. It's over. Mason is taking the game down and there's nothing you or I can do. Accept it and move on.

@mahdi: personaly i think he will not answer, Possibly mason don''t even reads through this anymore. Have to say though that the twitter thing is made up, his twt still exists.

How about you people, mahdi /Simter, get yourselves a couple lives? Yeah? Sound fun?

@82 don't sit there and call me a liar unless you're willing to put forth proof, I don't appreciate it and am not prepared to tolerate it. Correcting me is one way, you can do that in a tone that doesn't come off like what you displayed. I don't purposefully make up shit, and when I provide information, I check and double check it. Still, it is possible for me to provide misinformation, in which case I would issue an apology and a retraction when someone corrects me. However, even checking just now, his twitter is showing as non-existent. Maybe his masonasons updates is still around, but his personal one doesn't seem to be.

So feel free to call me a hypocrite but this whole situation has changed my view on one thing. Last topic I said that I had put way too much work into that game to just outright stop, but after a lot of thought, I have concluded that I just don't need Mason's bullshit and drama anymore. I tried to go on SBYW today, just a few minutes ago actually, and couldn't seem to build with the same amount of creativity and drive as normal. Now normally I have a very high motavation level on the game. Myself and Redfox created a map in three weeks that was  80k chars in the rawdata. But the main point I am trying to make is that I have come to the realization that I just don't need the building and the game as a whole anymore.  And not trying to sound like a kiss-ass, but IronCross, you were one of the main reasons I came to this, so thank you.

Meh, I never played with SBYW. Personally I kinda like Crime Hunter and Tomb Hunter for what they are but, whatever.

Before I continue I should say that I have no personal ill will toward Mason. Him and I used to be good friends, and we had our problems but I don't have any ill will toward him because he has some issues and I do too. We've both grown a lot though since we last talked on a regular basis, so if we ever did talk again, I would pretty much consider him from a clean slate. I don't know much about his recent actions but I know enough to say that he definitely needs to improve both his behavior and his administration skills but still, I don't even know if I could do what he does, so I'm not going to be too critical of him. I want him to find success, and it pains me to see him, and other developers, get caught up in this mess, though I will agree that he made some of this mess for himself, based on what I know. Some players no doubt contribute to this too.

I know I am ignorant of many of the facts and stories that led person A to do action B and person C to do action D and whatnot, and because of my ignorance, people are going to want to explain and justify it all to me, but to be honest I don't care, because this reputation for drama has been going on for long enough now, and explanations aren't doing much. I am really starting to become convinced that a lot of devs and admins don't have what it takes, from an emotional maturity standpoint, to keep a game running smoothly. A lot of them are literally teenagers who should be enjoying a teenager's life. If coding is their thing, then start small and work your way up so that your emotional maturity has a chance to catch up with your dreams, and enables you to watch the petty things from the sidelines and chuckle or shake your head and move on. But instead friendships and history and "a bit of fun" play into almost every decision and that is not at all a way I think a game or any public entity should be run. I'm not saying that no teenager can do a big project right, but some cannot. Furthermore, the notion that starting drama in a public place could be fun or productive is just sad to me, because it's creating quite the good reputation for the community.

I think we all need to step back and cool off. Forget SBYW, Mason is gonna take it down. I know people have put part of their heart and soul into the game, but it's only a game. And that's the trouble. Nobody realizes that a game is just a game. They bring personal drama into games and therefore, games aren't a passtime. Instead they become a lounge which seems to quickly become toxic, and games and online activities have a way of becoming addictive.

Myself, I play games just to play games. I try not to take my personal gripes with someone into a game. When I play CP for instance, I play with people I really do not wish to know well. But I still play minigames with them and really do enjoy it if the session remains civil. It makes me think of them in a more healthy way, instead of reading drama about them and shaking my head at their conduct off game. So long as they can keep a good reputation in-game, I'm fine playing with them. Why is just being friendly so hard to do?

I get away from games and computers every now and then because I like getting out of the house sometimes, and am forcing myself to actually find things to do. I look forward to coming back and seeing what's new. But I need some breaks. I think we all do. We just need to get away from the madness. So let's all just calm down, shake hands, and try to learn from our mistakes, and become better people and exercise our good qualities. And remember, a game is just a game, but friends and enemies can last for a lifetime. SBYW can be replaced eventually with another cool game. A good friend cannot be. And an enemy? I won't even go there, because something bad can always be outdone by something worse. So let's try to be calm, keep our personal trouble off public places, and try to avoid making enemies of each other.

Meh. Yeah, here goes again. I'm honestly not surprised, i'm really not. I felt bad when payed accounts first appeared, then when people started to buy then mason as always discontinued his game. How funny! people gave him, well let's say about 100 dollars. He didn't eeven do a refund. And now all those people, lost there money, cause they bought useless shit that no longer eeven exists. I'm excited as th and ch are going to be discontinued as well. Then we will have a new company like auditrocit works, then auditrosit works will develope a new, awesome game, then it will be payed, then 30 people buy it and lose there money cause that new company will discontinue this game, then... It's just a loop, it will always be so until something i don't know what, will happen. It's sad to see that some great games like UP and sbyw i'd not say it was so great though, have gon. Maybe mason should think about himself, maybe he doesn't have what it takes to develope and maintain his own game? maybe he's not suited for online games? maybe he's suited for large offline games? but th is a good fact of: no, offline games are not suited for mason too. When i saw the topic about sbyw is discontinued, i was surprised for a second, then my thoughts were exactly like this: yeah, sure, mason always closes his games after he gets money. Easy! get some money and close the game. You know the blind community has not much online games to play now? we eeven lack offline games. And i mean not just some small crappy games, but good, offline/online games to play. If there are good games, they are abandoned and they no longer receive updates. Rant over. Good point, @84.

@skylort: yeah, what a good point. We complain at about something and you tell us to get a live when you just complained about exactly the same? Your mind makes sense.

the hole, get a life thing is just stupid, you sound like a few squabbling children...

Do you know what's the saddest of all? That he says, for him coding is fun but ewants money for it. If i were a programmer, and coding was fun to me, i wouldn't ask for money. I know, paying for a server is not easy, but many people create opensource games and they have no problem with it.