Hi.
While not having played redspot very much, I am going to say this, and I said something similar in the swamp topic.
While I am not opposed to this game being payed, I am not entirely sure that it will keep cheeters and hackers out. The measures that people go to these days to hack, to crack games, and to cheet so that they have an unfair advantage over everyone else are ridiculous. I am not sure there is any fail-proof way to keep them out, because if people really wanted to, they could just create another account and keep cheeting again.
I also agree with people that i'd like to see a list of features that you have to offer before considering whether or not I want to pay.
It amazes me that the moment a developer says that he's making a game payed, people start complaining. Do you guys realize how much developing an audio game costs? This is one reason I don't want to go into game development. Even if I did make a game payed, people would probably cerack it and get it for free, because I feel that a lot of blind people have a "we deserve everything for free" attitude.
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#76 2016-10-27 00:51:19
#77 2016-10-27 13:49:28
You have to remember, i'm not doing this for the cheaters. I'm doing this for game quality, for those who see potential in the game and want it to be better. I can't do that with out sound effects etc.
#78 2016-10-27 16:27:31
Come on, Bryant. People don't crack for games because they feel entitled to it. The overly large amount of cracks available for mainstream video games are a proof of that. Please don't categorize cracking as wanting to be entitled to that product. Sighted people do this too.
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#79 2016-10-27 16:35:37
So If the free server will not going to have updates/new features, Well! This thing forces players to find a way to buy an account, or throw the game away.
For most of us eksept those guise who has dollar as currency in their cuntry, Can't buy accounts. Or if they can, They need to have unfare(Most of time unfare) traidings. So this is why I say know.
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#80 2016-10-27 17:38:28 (edited by amirmohammad 2016-10-27 17:40:29)
Hi. as Kianoosh said, we should exchange items to buy account and it is really really hard so i also vote no, and as Mayana said, most of us are tnagers and don't have a work and we don't get a salary to pay it for the game.
#81 2016-10-27 18:29:08 (edited by bryant 2016-10-27 18:41:10)
@bureak:
If you don't have the money to by a game, whether it be mainstream or audiogame, then just don't by it. That doesn't make someone more entitled to the game in my opinion. I am very much against cracking, and will whole-heartidly pay money for any game that I feel is good enough.
I'm sure sighted people do it, but that doesn't make it anymore the right thing to do in my opinion. It's one of those "just because other people do it, I can" things.
#82 2016-10-27 18:30:46
Interesting. So, if the game get payed, you don't want the free server just because it don't get updates or some new features? There should be a reason for paying for a game. You should be glad that you can get that many free games. Does that mean that you're not playing a demo version of a game, but prefer to crack it instead of paying? I hope I misunderstand something here. If not, then some people have really not deserved that many free games...
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#83 2016-10-27 19:12:52 (edited by sid512 2016-10-27 19:14:17)
its not just about good sound effects. i don't think a game like psycho strike was really, truly, extremely revolutionary or what you will. i don't know how many people paid for that one but those who didn't, aren't likely to miss out on too many features or whatnot else.
#84 2016-10-27 20:20:02
Hello,
This still does not make cracking an attempt for entitlement for blind people.
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#85 2016-10-27 20:58:24
Cracking is illigal. No matter, who, or what you are. Trying to justify it by saying that you are blind, is simply rediculous. And the fact, that there are apparently people in here, who really, honestly think, that they deserve to get everything for free, only because they are blind, or don't have the money to buy something makes me wonder, if they have ever taken a step into the real world. Sorry, if that sounds a bit harsh now. But if there should ever a developer from a big studio read along here, I wouldn't wonder, if he would dismiss the blind gamer comunity completely, simply, because they are such a demanding lot. Seriously guys. Wake up! Things don't work like that in this world.
#86 2016-10-27 22:20:22
Are there seriously people who justify cracking iwth being blind? Then I'll call them ignorent.
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#87 2016-10-27 22:32:09
You have to remember, i'm not doing this for the cheaters. I'm doing this for game quality, for those who see potential in the game and want it to be better. I can't do that with out sound effects etc.
This is just my opinion, but a game doesn't have to have the best sound effects money can buy to be a good game. A game can have awesome sounds and crappy features, and the soundds wouldn't make up for those crappy features. There are thousands of free sounds out there that can be mixed and modified to make new sounds, and one can always make sounds on their own if they put some effort into it. The Psycho Strike reference was a good example. The game has some pretty good quality sounds and voice acting, but after a while it loses its replay value.
#88 2016-10-28 09:12:32
It's not just sounds. What about the server? Also for some people sounds aren't the big things, but free sounds are usually very compressed, need lots of credit, and are not there, on my computer locally. It's hard enough to do this as it is, downloading 128 K MP3 files doesn't make it any easier. I'm not good at everything, I think that's impossible for 1 human being to be good at everything. I am not good at recording sounds. I'm just not. Thus I need to acquire them by purchasing them. And like I said too, this server is expensive, now hosting 2 games, 2 websites, and a bunch more servers. This thing soon won't even be able to survive, and I'll need to upgrade it. The point though, I do a lot of work for this game. I want it to be better. Everyone scemes to be stuck around the fact that I am demanding money. As it stands, I get money from stw, I pay for the sounds and the server, you get the game for free and some people like to go on and spam and all this and ruin the game for everyone else. At that point, ware has all my hard work and money gone. Aside from the motivation I get from watching you guys enjoy the game, how is that fair for me? It is true that I want a cheater free spam free redspot, but I want the game to be better, and for people to stop saying lag every 30 seconds to me, aka a server upgrade.
#89 2016-10-28 20:15:52
Sam, If its a one time payment, I'm in! Especially if it will get rid of cheaters and the like. If it were monthly or something, then not so much...
#90 2016-10-28 20:15:59
well, my opinion wouldn't be a fair one since I didn't play redspot at all. that is to say I tried it more than 3 months ago from what I remember, and that too for an hour at most. what I found is the sounds were good, the inventory and other items were good enough as well. but people were running around killing and shooting like crazy, and worse than that some fokes decided to just shoot in the air for eternity. keep runnin and runnin and occasionally use an item grabber and people launching robots and projectiles isn't too realistic either. the jet felt like just a small vehicle that's it. you've got good sounds, enough resources and enough ability to develop a game as intense as stw with maps and other activities, why not make them interesting. suppose if the items in redspot have some purpose. how about using the jet to bomb real targets and complete real missions? how about pipe bombs exploding and causing structural damage? how about robots fighting each other and so on? what I mean is if there is a certain objective behind all these, than there lies a potential so huge that people easily can be compelled to buy the game even if it comes out after a very long period of time. take a game like gma tank commander for example. apart from the fixed missions there is such a huge potential to that game but alas, no custom content at all. the game could be made into something truly epic, with tank battles and various other scenarios. I remember having the same opinion about stw as well, but again I haven't tried it as of recent. if there is something organized, say a team or a group, or parts of the game are made offline, some npcs and some random missions or stuff like that and so on, surely the game could evolve into something actually interesting. but alas, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. still, good luck.
#91 2016-10-28 22:18:08
Actually cid, that pretty much is what's happening in this version of redspot, everything from cars to bases and all sorts of stuff. I can't show now because it's to early in dev, but trust me, my entire beta group is organizing an entire massive team war which takes advantage of all these features and you will hear it all.
#92 2016-10-29 08:11:36
Hi sam tupy!
well as far as the concern of paid version I will not going to pay for the current version.
basically I got your idea that you have classified the players into two sections.
well if a free surver player having laitency issues and the person x spams in the free surver then what are the options?
because code writing is easy than fixing a bug or errors.
what are the limits of demo or free version of this game?
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#93 2016-10-31 16:08:38
The free version will continue to receive smallish updates to fix lag etc, also to some extent it will be moderated to keep it as cheat free as possible. The free version will be redspot as we know it now on it's own server so that free players and paid players do not interfieer.
#94 2016-11-01 12:59:05
hey folks,
I want to say the following, I think this game should be a payed game because, as Sam_tupy said before, he has to pay for the servers, and the sounds. an audiogame is not an audiogame if it doesn't have good sounds. This game has potentiol in the future.
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#95 2016-11-01 23:21:07
I must put in my two cents here. I feel as though there are some ways in which you could reduce the cost of running the game.
The first, while rather undesirable I'd imagine, is to make it possible for someone to set up a server of their own. This would not only lower the cost to you but allow you to focus more on content than the server.
Second, I believe you're doing quite well on sounds. You're a fantastic audio designer, such can be seen by the way you do creative speaker tests and the story for STW as well. That's all I can think of to say right now, and one final comment on the server thing. I realize that may not be possible because then you'd have to remove existing code. But all the same, it could help you.
#96 2016-11-01 23:27:00
Fully agreed with putting your own servers, i was dreaming about that.
#97 2016-11-01 23:34:13
and what about those people who don't know anyone who a, likes to play the game, b, has the resources to set up a server, and c, actually wants to run one? They'll have jack to do on the main server when everyone else leaves to go in their own little private v i p circles.
#98 2016-11-02 04:11:23
Yeah, please don't do that because it will end up like rtr where all servers are down and no one comes on anymore.
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#100 2016-11-02 08:41:35 (edited by kianoosh 2016-11-02 08:42:41)
Hi. Well this problem can be solved easily. In my opinian, sam tupy may have a payed server running, and if anyone wants to play there, they can pay and play. This will help sam for the sfx and stuff, and the game will not going to be rtr v2 lol. This also can be helpful for those players who don't have the resources to run a server, or don't want to play on others server.
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