Hi. Can't remember all of the names, but I'll address a few things. First and for most, the instability. The biggest thing is, if i made this charged, I could remove speed hack detection entirely because as soon as I catch someone doing it or someone reports that it's being done, they can just be banned and they won't ever come back unless they pay for a new account. This will fix most of the games instability. Also about me getting hacked, it only really happened twice when I was an idiot about a year ago now I think, and the one time someone hacked my remote session. Nothing severe happened in either case, and each case teaches me more and more about security. Recently someone atempted hacking into my file zilla server and tried taking over the server, but I stopped it instantly. The thing is, anyone could get hacked. Though lets not have this discussion, all people have to do is grab remote.ini. I get it I get it hard to fix if not impossible but either way. Also i'm not sure what your talking about disasters. Yes there was a discussion on the topic about it, but that was a player not understanding how things worked. If there is a bug ware someone loses there stuff, they instantly get there stuff back. And if for some reason they don't and they don't talk to me about it, you can't expect me to do anything. If I my self am missing something about that disaster conversation or about me getting hacked, I'd love to know. Because I don't think it's that severe. Thing is, that stuff happens. There is no getting around it. You purchase graphic audio books, sometimes the download link doesn't work. One time I spent about 300 dollars on sounds and got no download link, again with an 85 dollar purchase earlier. There is no way to make things perfectly stable. And if that happens, it's a skype chat away from fixing. Hope that cleared up a little bit for you guys. About those features? Guys, send me suggestions. Like ricocheting? I love that idea and it will be in the next version. Also, cars have a good chance being part of this next update. I'm telling you, it's huge. Very huge. And of course, once the update is closer to being done, we shall have this vote again next time with a trailer included. But guys, send me suggestions. Big ones.

So character advancement and keeping your stuff when you log out: no.  I'm totally against this.  This is a game that presents an opportunity for someone to log on, fight, and log off.  If there were character progression, people could log on, get 100000 health while no one else was on, and everyone else would have zero chance.  I do think it would be neat to reward players for their effort, though, and here's how I propose it:

Each kill is worth a certain amount of points, dollars, whatever.  When you kill someone, your account gets that amount of points.  You can also sell items for points -- have 12 jets, just sell 10 of them and you're set.  When you die and respawn, you can be taken to a store where you can opt to spend your points on a few items, ammo, etcetera.  That way, when you respawn, you can come into it slightly better off.  Of course, you can opt to spend none of these points and come in with a default set of gear.  I don't think, though, that the points should be allowed to get too out of control.  One of redspot's charms to me is the ability to get on and fight without having to deal with people that have been grinding health or items for three months, and by then become virtually unkillable.

  BTB had this problem -- people would have purchased like 8000 health upgrades and someone just starting has zero chance to gain anything because, well, they  were outmatched by those that got ahead quickly.  I am in agreement that redspot should be kept on as level a playing field as possible.

As to the new upgrade, a traylor would be great, but, hands-on time with it would be better.  Make a timed demo or something -- you get 3 hours of playtime.  With redspot, that'll go quickly.

hi
i never pay money for a game
i can pay for food any others not for game money is not for games

I'm interested in the number of people who are afraid of a paid game. As a game developer running an online service, there are various costs you need to consider. I think making it a paid game is fine.

A few things to consider though:
1. Please don't make your game a pay to win program. Being able to pay for X, Y, or Z, means a very unbalanced playing field.
2. Consider making lower annual payments rather than a single lump sum. You'll receive a continual income, rather than a sudden influx and then a void of finances.

Honestly, "paid game" should not be such a taboo phrase. There are costs to account for that players who are eager to nab any and every new thing just can't conceive of.

Kai

Hi. @58, there is a very simple reason that i'm not doing steady income for RS, and why i'll just end up making something new if this doesn't get me the money to get at least a couple good sound libraries, like I think it will, then I will use the rest of it on my server. The thing is, to a lot of people here, even a one time payment may as well be me shooting 3 people in terms of severity. It's going to be a level playing field, either you purchase the game or you don't, and some of you guys actually have reasons that make sence, but to a lot of this community, I feel that if you mention the word paid, 200 more people hate you even if I'm using the money to advance the game and keep the server running. Thus for now, until I feel ready to receive a very inescapable back lashing, I am going to stick to 1 time payments. @rol dude, I was only making a point when I said all you have to do is get remote.ini. All you have to do is have an uploader that isn't careful enough with extensions, or your web indexes enabled, or use use an old version of amazon aws security, it goes on and on. Yes, the same as me running an exe, something I think i've only done once. After that exe, I guaranty i've never run such a random executable again. Either way, was just proving a point. It's one of the many downfalls to hosting everything on one server.

for me, it would have to depend on the features that are being offered.
If it continues as it is now, than my answer would be no.
However, if there was a list of upcoming features and said features were added in, and we could see them then I would reconsider.
Also if I'm to pay for a game, I would like to see regular updates.
I  think this is something to think about.
If the game is free, then there is no obbligation as to how frequent updates, bug fixes of features are added in..
However, if that game is now pay to play, that a reasonable person would expect updates or fixes in a  timely manner and by timely, I don't mean once a week.
I do understand that you do have a life and all that but also you would have to be more obbligated to work on it more than if it wasn't ay to play.
The other thing I want to touch on is items.
Are items something that we get to keep when logging out unelss we dye? or do those items go away as soon as we log out.
I think it's a good idea so long as the benifits are there.
However, going pay to play is going to really reduce the player bace such as it is now which is not to bad..

Ok hi all guys, especially sam. Here is my suggestion:
You need to solv: that. For example ok, you made the redspot payed. That's ok for me, but i want to play with actual version. I suggest doing so: Make the redspot payed, but leave the 2 hour timeplay is in vipmud, or make a 30 day trial and after that, you have 2 hours gameplay. You need to solv that, so people can't just afford it, just like me. I have this 10 $ but i don't have the credit card, and my parents just don't allowing me to use they. So sam, please do the 30 month trial or something for others to play payed version. Or, just you can update the free version with features that payed has, and just never log on to that server, just as players don't see you on the free server. I really like redspot, and if i could, i sure donated.

Sounds awesome. But, it's hard to come up with any suggestions when we don't know what features you have in mind for the new version.

Heya there.
So ... ahat the actual fuck?
Someone said that redspot is half an hour of fun here and there etc?
When comparing prices I Always compare Entertainment in hours vs Money paid. Half an hour here and there for 15 dollars? That definitely beats the enjoyment you get out of a pizza for the same amount.
As for the argument that we're students and can not afford 15 dollars for a one time payment ... I have a slight request for you. Pick up your computer, and take it to the top of a tall building, then throw it down over the edge ... you can't fucking afford 15 dollars? Unregister from this forum ... why should you have an account? You can't pay the internet bills anyway.
I'd  be more than happy to pay  for redspot provided we get more updates and I would even do it at it's current state honestly ... although I will admit I want to see ore features, more balancing with items and an actual map but primarily I'd pay for a cheater free Redspot.

No one force you to pay. You can still play STW without paying, and there will be a free version of Redspot as well. Seriously, what's the issue?

I suppose this just goes to show some of us value money differently than others.  Time vs money payed?  Sure.  I’ll go for that.  But, considering the quality of the game, to me, it’s not worth paying for – I don’t consider a half hour now and again worth investing my time.  I’d rather save the money for something that truly matters to me – something that will impact my life or is necessary.  An hour or two a week for something that is highly unbalanced in it’s current state is not worth that investment.

Could I afford it?  Sure.  Will I pay for it/  Not until it gets either an overhall of the existing features, or something that just sounds too freeking awesome to miss out on.  As of now, Redspot, although enjoyable, has none of those things.  If it helps, I probably wouldn’t buy Call of Duty or any of the mainstream first-person shooters, either.

But, since we’re talking about time of enjoyment, let me break something down for you:
Tuesday nights, I can go to the movies for $5.  I can get dinner for another $10.  If I go with someone else, and pay for it, the cost doubles.  Let’s call it $40 for the evening.  Not only do I get, if the film and food are good, a satisfying two hours, I get a conversation about what we liked/disliked about the film – call it another hour – and another few minutes raving over the dinner.  I get a good ride, as it were.  If the film is truly good, I get my emotions going – sympathizing for the characters, laughing at them, sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for them to get killed in a back alley or catch the bad guy, whatever the thrill is..  That, to me, is more valuble than getting on and button mashing, putting up with the stupid chat comments (if I don’t just turn it off), putting up with the extremely lame death messages (not my cup of tea, sorry Sam), jumping out of the way of a few grenades, and once I get good at that, being able to do it in my sleep.  What I’m saying is, although the cost of redspot is cheap enough and very reasonable, I don’t feel that it justifies it due to the entertainment.  The movie, however, is different each individual time, the food (if I don’t stick to the same things), are all different, the conversations are all different, and that makes it worth it.

If I was to go on the cheap, I’d rent a movie from iTunes for 5 bucks, cutting off the other half of the ticket, buy my own soda (I can get a two leter for 2 bucks), my own popcorn (4 bucks for a pack of four, or six for a bag of curnals), make dinner myself (depending on the dinner, let’s call it $10 for two.  Yes, I can manage to make a good quality meal for that cheap), and the time extends – I get to make it myself (something I enjoy doing), and that extends to a full evening.  Plus, I don’t have to put up with assholes texting or munching popcorn or those uncomfortable chairs.

Let’s even go with a simpler example: audible is $22 a month and I can get anywhere from 10-50 plus hours of entertainment from that.  If ew’re talking about time vs money in terms of enjoyment, Redspot, and most audiogames, aren’t on the radar for me.

If Redspot caused me to have to think, strategise, and the game was different each time I played, I would obviously reconsider.  Once I get bored of something, that money is now less enjoyable.

There can be something said for a terrible book or movie, too, but we all have to cut our losses sometimes.

I’m not saying “Screw that Redspot isn’t worth paying for,” because, to some, it obviously is.  Look at this thread as proof of that.  To me, however, it’s not in it’s current form.

I have an intel i7 6700 processor running at 3.40 ghz quadcore, with 16 gb of ram. And even if I didn't it is still a large problum because many audiogamers don't have a good computer.