2016-03-09 15:47:37

I really have to agree with JeffB and dark here.

Just saying that someone helped you out when you started a game so they should get a free pass when something like this comes up is a rather selfish outlook on things. As I see it, it's basically saying, well he helped me out, so who cares what he did to you? I like the guy. Especially if the person it happened to is a longstanding member of the community not prone to starting drama.

I don't think Walter should have ever been made an admin, much less continue to be one, but my hands are tied on that issue. I think Walter is a dictator who makes up his own rules as he goes, and I've got a log to prove it happened at least once. Post is at the end, but be aware it's unedited and fairly long. I didn't want to edit anything out so it looks like I'm trying to make Walter out as a bad guy.

No, it's not fair for someone to claim to want to fight with a sword and shield, and then break out guns and other stuff if he's losing. Unfortunately though, that's how things happen sometimes, deception is a part of life in a lot of cases. If this kind of thing isn't welcome on STW, it needs to be made official in a rules document somewhere, not just by the dictates of Walter. I see him using a lot of dictatorial moves here and not trusting the player on one side. For example, the player, Conner, says he won't use grenades, but instead of just taking him at his word and punishing him later, Walter decides to take all his grenades away, along with other stuff he had been given, or bought in some cases. I see this as an abuse of power if not backed by official rules, because who gets to decide what's fair in this situation? Even on a game, the admin are not God. Morals have to be set externally, or who gets to decide what's fair and what isn't? This is why most games I've played online have a rules document making everything very clear what is allowed and what not to do beforehand. Given that the game is called Survive the Wild, I think it makes perfect sense for someone to be able to challenge another person to a sword fight, and then break out guns later. Is it dishonorable? Yes. But to take away all of someone's hard earned items and then not return them until you feel like it, if at all? This is a blatant abuse of power if not backed by official laws. It's basically saying, I dictate the rules here, you're going to listen to me. There's a reason countries run by dictatorships don't usually allow it for long.

I'll end this post with the log of what I see as abuse. But just writing this post off as drama because "Hey, Walter helped me out when I was a newbie," is not cool in any way. I do agree that everyone needs a chance for redemption, but redemption doesn't just mean helping people out because it makes you feel good, everyone's done that at some point or another. It means a complete and total change of behavior, total repentance, as it were. It means you spend time fixing your mistakes and if you fall back into old behaviors, apologizing and making it right instead of defending yourself, not the other way around.

I've tried to keep this post as inoffensive as possible, but I fear I may have stepped on some toes anyway. I apologize in advance for doing so, but some things need to be said. On to the log:



out of character, samD! says oh 12:55:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says this will be my non admin char from now on 12:55:56 PM, 1/20/2016
pm from Gomin. hi 12:55:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, samD! says oh 12:56:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says so can enny one please tell sam when he comes on line I am looking very badly for him 12:56:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Pyro709 says is an admin around? 12:57:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says isn't he on skype? 12:57:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says no he is away 12:57:08 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Pyro709 says can someone assist me for a moment? 12:57:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says sure 12:57:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says with? 12:57:17 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says what is it? 12:57:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Pyro709 says got some bugged items 12:57:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says ah 12:57:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says do I need to have the shield in my hand to  wear it? 12:57:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says the only one on hear that can remove them is me 12:57:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says and danny has not answered my skype in a long time. 12:57:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says I haven't seen danny in a while 12:58:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says daniel standley 12:58:45 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says you, are, a, beetrayer! 12:58:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says who is the trayder 12:59:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says a cheeter, and someone who is beetraying to his aponent 12:59:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I  was known as Leo on DMNB. 12:59:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says it was a fight 12:59:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says mine is cross  12:59:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no cheating 12:59:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says you know, i don't like beet raying  12:59:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says dementor 12:59:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says who cheeted? 12:59:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I didn't 12:59:43 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I will kill hi 12:59:45 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I simply grenaded him because we were having a fight 12:59:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says i'v been toled you that just whith soard 12:59:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I will kill him! 12:59:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says cowerd! 12:59:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says kill who? 1:00:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says actually, I think connor have a death card, not cheating 1:00:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says but he can still die 1:00:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says and I have a lot of energy ecause of pop 1:00:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says walter I didn't do anything onnist 1:00:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says don't cheet on perpice 1:00:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I will never turn PK on. 1:00:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says if you don't like fight, why you are accespting? 1:01:10 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I know that like thousands of people are just looking to  kill me so no. 1:01:11 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says if I find you cheeting you will be removed for a while 1:01:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says oh well then no fight 1:01:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says no fight? 1:01:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says no I just looking on the mountain, maybe 2 or 3 corpses just lying there 1:01:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says what is your energy 1:01:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I did not cheat. what evidence do you have against me cheating? 1:01:39 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I am asking what is your energy 1:01:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says 55 energy. 1:01:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I drank so much freakin pop my energy is now 9372 energy  1:02:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says 655 energy. 1:02:05 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says so who do you want to fight? 1:02:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says this is why the exactly blaze was refering too, so much energy think is cheating 1:02:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I will make his energy the same 1:02:25 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says no one, I will die, I don't even have a proper weapon. 1:02:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says smoke j wanted to fight me but the he logged off 1:02:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says i logged off? 1:02:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says urglglglgl 1:02:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says couldn't find you 1:02:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says conner I am asking you who do you want to fight 1:02:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but walter 1:02:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says i want to fight, whith soard and shild, whith a fighter, not a cowerd 1:02:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says walter connar would be fun to watch though 1:03:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says a lot of pop went into this energy value! you can't just take it away from me! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 1:03:11 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I would like to watch you guys fight. 1:03:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says lol, didn't walter give you that pop? 1:03:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says waisting money, yayayayayay 1:03:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says like a tishue paper 1:03:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I am going to set the other fighter to your energy 1:03:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I think so 1:03:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says to make it fair 1:03:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says butt I also got some pop cans from gamer 1:03:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says oi if he bought those pops, hmm? 1:03:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I went to the village but  there is nothing there. 1:04:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says so who is the other fighter 1:04:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says me 1:04:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says not whith grenade 1:04:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says well I dunno if smoke j still wants to fight now that he knows I have dfc and that my energy is high 1:04:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says ok cool I will give you the same energy 1:04:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says only whith soard, and shild 1:04:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I wish we could make  grenades. 1:04:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says you can find them in the city though 1:04:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says doubt it 1:04:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says you can 1:04:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says I mean can't makegrenade maybe 1:04:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I went to the city,  all there is there is chairs. 1:04:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says woops? 1:05:05 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says uhh, grenades are too overpowered 1:05:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says items in the city are are 1:05:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says *rare 1:05:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says that is why it's harder to found those grenade 1:05:19 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says i don't want enegry, i want a big ftrust from someone, to not dieing when he take out a grenade 1:05:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says you will only use a sword and sheeld is that clear 1:05:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says while soard battle 1:05:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says yes my overlord and master 1:05:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says if you use a grenade I will have you for it conner 1:05:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says *cries 1:05:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I am in the desert,  do I go south or east in the desert expance to get to the mainland? 1:06:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says lets remove your grenades 1:06:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says south 1:06:07 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 1:06:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says great! 1:06:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I all ready said I won't use them! 1:06:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I am going to right way. 1:06:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says so I have grenades and, 1:06:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, joshua.preyser says Hey Walter! How's it going boet? I have 9 grinades if you want. 1:06:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says no grenades to use 1:06:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says mr walter? can i have a soard and shild please? 1:06:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says did... you... ust... fuck!!!!!!!!!! 1:06:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says yes 1:06:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but you gonna gim them back after the fight? 1:06:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says fights should be fair in this instince 1:06:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says where are you guys fighting at? 1:07:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says thanks! 1:07:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says just watch me if you wanna see 1:07:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but give em back after the fight okay? 1:07:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hi guys, 1:07:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says fighters? 1:07:43 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says oyyyyyyyyyyy! protene bars give energy! 1:07:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says do you want that removed as well? 1:07:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hoo wana  fight me? 1:07:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no no no no no no no no! 1:08:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says thanks walter 1:08:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says please pliz'z'z'z'z'z' don't do that no no no have mursy noooooo! 1:08:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says don't wory, knifes only 1:08:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says so where are ya fighting guys? 1:08:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says if you use enny thing to gane more energy I will remove it 1:08:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says knives 1:08:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says go back to hades king 1:08:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says fine 1:08:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no energy gains  1:08:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says only swords and sheelds will be used for this fight 1:08:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says lol smoke-j. hades gave me 100 more lives 1:08:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says can you set it so that I can look at them fighting? 1:09:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says if I do energy gains, you can set my thurst to 1000, my hunger to 1000, or my health to 0 until I lose all my death cards 1:09:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says josh? 1:09:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says blind soardsman hehehe 1:09:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says oy looshmack! get over here! 1:09:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hi smoke  1:09:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says i'm amine 1:10:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says looshmack have 9500 energy 1:10:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I really want to see this, but I am too far away  darn it. 1:10:10 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says would you like to lirn me how to fight very well? 1:10:20 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says there ya go 1:10:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says where are you going to fight? 1:10:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says thanks! 1:10:43 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says on the beach 1:10:43 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says I will come there 1:10:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hehe 1:10:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says wooooo beach? 1:10:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, lapeleonera says o? 1:11:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says what are you giving vlooshmack? 1:11:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says you are an admin, you can look at me 1:11:07 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says /look connor 1:11:08 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says sorry. 1:11:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says fighting at the beach? 1:11:17 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says I will move all the fighters to one location 1:11:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I mean what is walter giving you looshmack? 1:11:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says who/ 1:11:28 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says us 1:11:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says them? 1:11:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says ok thanks 1:11:39 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says o? 1:11:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says gts? 1:11:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says xd, no 1:11:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says I made his energy the same as yours 1:11:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says oi why 1:11:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says so who want to fight/ 1:11:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says thanks alot 1:11:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says mememe 1:12:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says me  1:12:04 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, prajwalthejointroll says hi all 1:12:10 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says i would but i gotta head off to get kid off bus in a few 1:12:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but walter you never disallowed health gains we both have a pack of bandades so its fair 1:12:17 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says wow 3 items in the store for grabbing ... 1:12:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, prajwalthejointroll says hi all hi conner 1:12:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says connor  are you fighting the other person? 1:12:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says wao 1:12:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says walter, i don't know, how t ofight very well, but, i'll try 1:13:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says where are you looshmack? didn't you wanna fight? I was getting all prepped 1:13:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says there is a guy I am looking at just  opening and closing his pack, I don't really know what he is doing but he  is at the beach. 1:13:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says move 1:13:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says the_best_killer move 1:13:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says still want to fight 1:13:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, joshua.preyser says I have 6 swords. Where are you? 1:13:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says well then get over here 1:13:41 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says oi what the 1:14:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says ok now get reddy 1:14:19 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hay, come here, some badi come, here 1:14:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says i didn't mean that kind of sleep 1:14:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says hahahahahaha 1:14:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says roflroflroflrofl damn it 1:14:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says so josh do you also want to fight? 1:14:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I am getting bored looshmack 1:14:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says corent location: soard fightting camp ground lol 1:14:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says this is better than sleeping for real 1:14:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says hell no 1:14:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says just. no 1:15:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says we should make an arena fight event where we have the grand stw tournament! who wins can choose from 50 teleporters, 50 dfcs, or 500 gifts! 1:15:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hay, come here, some badi come, here 1:15:28 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says come conner 1:15:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says and it should be a one on one battles 1:15:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says oy! 1:15:45 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says does someone want to have a sword fight with me? 1:15:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says he just logged off! 1:15:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says sure, me 1:15:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says meeeeee 1:16:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says so do you want to fight as a groop or 2 against 2 1:16:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says two, two 1:16:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says ok 1:16:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says shit, wayk up me 1:16:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says well for the grand stw tournament event it should be all players who want to participate, in 1 on 1 battles in a costum made arena with pits, bears and other nasties 1:16:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says so who is going to go against the best killer? 1:16:41 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says now that... is a very good question indeed 1:16:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I could 1:17:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I have a shield, but I don't know how to craft a sword or hammer. 1:17:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says look in the changelog for crafting swords 1:17:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says with out grenads ok? 1:17:19 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says no 1:17:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says waight 1:17:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hoo can giv me a sheeld 1:18:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says your health will be 1000 is that clear 1:18:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says sir yes sir! 1:18:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Pyro709 says is the fight going down at the camp ground? 1:18:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says 887 health 1:18:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no, at the beach 1:18:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says someone should erect stands for the croud to watch big_smile 1:19:05 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says lets hand out popcorn 1:19:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says thank ya 1:19:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says I want to watch 1:19:28 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says same, and i can 1:19:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says xD 1:19:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says rofl 1:19:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says ahaa 1:19:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says are you sure? 1:19:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says turn on your pk! 1:19:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says who wants to have me trust them so they can watch the fitht 1:19:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says sure 1:20:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says so, 1:20:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says sad i can't hear or see the readio from this distance ... lol 1:20:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says walter is allowing killer to break the rules! 1:21:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says wait,  all I see  connor doing is waving around his sword. 1:22:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says what is the fight is geting started? 1:22:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says that your pk 1:22:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says 9500 energy 1:22:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says someone took steroyds 1:22:28 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says my pk is on? 1:22:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says connor, may i watch? at you... don't know who else is gonna fight lol 1:22:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says 9500 enrgy 1:22:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says now go! 1:22:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says oi? 1:22:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I all ready trust you 1:22:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says ok, lets get it started 1:23:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says o thanks 1:23:17 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says if someone ever wants to get rid of a few pop cans, 9500 energy is certainly something i'd try any day ... lol 1:23:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says gotta leave in seven minutes sad this is a mexican stand off right now. 1:23:25 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hmm, amine will kill you all 1:23:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, joshua.preyser says Me too. 1:23:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says hi 1:24:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, joshua.preyser says I had 30 recently. I drank 25 of them and I had to give my last 5 to somebody. 1:24:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says yeah, this is a problem no certain way to see where the other went 1:24:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says this looks more like a sword dance 1:25:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says hahhahahahah 1:25:07 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says HY TO ALL! 1:25:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says hi 1:25:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says and now someone should go near and blow them all to bits and ruble 1:25:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says hi pk 1:25:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says does someone want to have a sword fight with me? 1:25:39 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says I WANT WOOD 1:25:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says yes 1:25:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says fighting with pk pk samd! 1:26:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says lols with that energy, that fight can last forever 1:26:04 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says if he is atempting to strike his opponent,  he is not doing a very good job at it. 1:26:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-van-wyk says lol 1:26:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says ADMINS 1:26:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says CAN YOU HELP ME? 1:26:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says or masters 1:26:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says where are you? come here 1:26:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says and a regular char would already be out of breth soon ... lol 1:26:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says xd 1:26:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says trust me god damit 1:26:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says I AM IN MOUNTAN 1:26:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says alireza.nosrati.123 can you trust me 1:27:04 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says come on 1:27:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says error: the_best_killer doesn't trust you 1:27:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says walter two, your pk 1:27:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says I AM SLEEP 1:27:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says so trust me guod dammit 1:27:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says hi guise, 1:27:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, pashmak says HY! 1:27:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says this is getting boring! 1:27:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says yay for the umbrella ... lol 1:27:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says hi my son 1:28:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, smoke-j says I'm off, back in 30. we'll see if they fine one another again by then. 1:28:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says mission_ender? 1:28:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says walter, your pk 1:28:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says yes? 1:28:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says mission_ender  yaa my son 1:28:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, joshua.preyser says Does anybody have an umbrella? 1:28:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says  come give my items 1:28:39 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says walter 2, where are the others? 1:28:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says best killer, fucking trust me 1:28:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says i'll give ya! latter 1:28:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says ha ha ha ha ha 1:28:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says the best killer come over here 1:29:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says hehehehe 1:29:07 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says b yaa pessaramm 1:29:11 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says trust me connor 1:29:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says my son come un 1:29:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says dam it, my client crashed 1:30:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says who can fight whith borrow me a shild, and fight whith soard and shild? 1:30:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says me! 1:30:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says saamaan! let's fight 1:30:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says come un! 1:30:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says you are saamaane? 1:30:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says actually hit your opponent! 1:30:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says saamaan hasstee? 1:30:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says awesome lets do It again 1:31:11 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says can you give sword 1:31:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says don't scream so loud ... bad for your voice ... rofl 1:31:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says what,  I was told to look at connor he said something about he was fighting someone, but  there is nothing,  he is just waving around his  sword and walking around. 1:31:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says looshmak man teleporter nadaaramm 1:31:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says translation 1:32:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says i dont have teleporter! 1:32:08 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says this is really weird: voice clips go through to the watcher just fine, radio doesn't 1:32:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says where are those people 1:32:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, looshmack says trust me alireza.nosrati.123 1:32:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says looshmack! my boy! 1:32:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says soon I will be reddy to kill! 1:32:43 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says come here! i'll make it for ya walter 1:32:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says man what a speed rofl 1:33:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says mission_ender is my son! 1:33:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says fuck fuck fuckity fuck 1:33:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says come, here 1:33:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says come meeau 1:33:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says you just disabled your pk 1:33:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I will rip you to bits 1:33:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says that means I can scoff protene bars to my heart's content! 1:33:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says i'm ready to  die 1:33:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says walter, bandays, hery 1:33:48 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Ice-Princess says why kick tickchiro 1:33:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says mission_ender  1:33:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says i'll make it for ya alireza 1:33:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says why does walter always help you and not me? 1:34:04 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says keeyaanoosh! 1:34:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says come 1:34:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says can someone give sword? 1:34:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says it's for all of us mark 1:34:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says i dont have 1:34:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says keeeyaaaaanooosh 1:34:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati.123 says keeyaanaa  please give my items 1:34:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says your pk 1:35:15 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm ready to fight 1:35:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says connor: you can't kill without pk ... remember? 1:35:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, lapeleonera says lag lag 1:35:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says hay all? are you playing clash of clans? 1:36:04 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says clash of clans? 1:36:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says yes! 1:36:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says is that game even accessible? 1:36:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says no! 1:36:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says it's inaccessible 1:36:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says AWW DAMN IT FACEBOOK 1:36:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says it isn't! how! 1:36:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says ACCOUNT UNAVAILABLE 1:36:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says it is inaccessible 1:37:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm playing clash of clans 1:37:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says how can you? 1:37:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm not fully blind 1:37:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Michael says I playing DeSmuME 0.9.11 x64.exe 1:37:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says nintendo ds? 1:38:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm playing pcsx2! 1:38:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says with out grenads 1:38:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says enny one have an ecxtra shotgun for me? 1:38:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, samD! says I do 1:38:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says sam! 1:38:52 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says i have extra grenade for you 1:38:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Jimmy says How can I get out of the village without a boat? 1:39:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says sam! 1:39:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says with out grenads guys, pleas, 1:39:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Jimmy says I'm stuck at the village. I don't have a boat. 1:39:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I will help you soon 1:39:45 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says come to the gas station, i'll give you one 1:39:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says someone scrambled my looking function! 1:40:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says connor, trust, me 1:40:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, lapeleonera says crap 1:41:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says what? 1:41:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, lapeleonera says am gone 1:41:25 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says no 1:41:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says who is using grenades in this fight? 1:41:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says where is fight! 1:41:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says shore line! 1:42:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says because if you do you need to be killed 1:42:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, lapeleonera says 101 health 1:42:23 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says 3434343 health 1:42:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, lapeleonera says wtf 1:42:37 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says so alareeza how do you play clash of clans? 1:42:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says where are ya guise! 1:42:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says how? 1:43:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says its not accessible 1:43:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says go to supercell.con  and download him 1:43:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says com 1:43:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm  not fully  blind 1:43:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I asked you how can your health be that you are talking bull shit 1:43:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says he just kiding! not more 1:43:41 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says ciding 1:43:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says keding 1:43:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says alireza.nosrati can you trust me? 1:43:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says yayayayay! 1:43:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says my clan name is tm bax! 1:44:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says no stupid grenades? 1:44:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says dam I need to make this char very strong 1:44:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says hey alireza.nosrati can you give me a sword and shield? 1:44:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says i can give you sam d! 1:44:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says who do I look at to watch the fighiting? 1:44:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i dont have! 1:44:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no no no 1:44:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says that's a lie 1:44:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says hahahaha? 1:45:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says lighter_fluid. you have 24 1:45:07 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says ok mitionender can you give me? 1:45:14 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says because, I tried clash of clans once and it wasn't accessible I couldn't do anything 1:45:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Jimmy says water you have 935 1:45:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says lighter fluid you have 100 o sorry  lighter fluid you have -100 1:45:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says lighter_fluid. you have 88 1:45:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Jimmy says match you have 199 1:46:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says grenade you have 1000 o sorry -1000 1:46:07 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says walter? 1:46:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, mission_ender says match. you have 350 1:46:19 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says yes? 1:46:20 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says may I please in all your kindness have my grenades back? 1:46:25 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says no 1:46:28 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but why not 1:46:33 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Alexander says aww I thought the fight it's over so you can gave it back 1:46:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, naeen says hi all. who can give me a bike 1:46:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says because how did you get them in the first place 1:46:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I was given them 1:46:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says wil not you fight again? 1:47:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says there's nothing wrong with that 1:47:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I traded them for stuffages 1:47:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says so please give em back 1:47:25 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, KingThork says o did you die? 1:47:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no he took them away so I wouldn't use them in a fight 1:47:51 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says even though I told him I wouldn't 1:47:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says so please I need those 1:48:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says you will not fight again or what? 1:48:10 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says no 1:48:11 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says ochy! 1:48:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but why not! 1:48:18 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says are you from the USA? 1:48:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says no 1:48:31 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says just fighting  min thirst then I will return it 1:49:11 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says shit, sleeping with out reezon? lol? 1:49:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says don't drink wit hyour hand huh, 1:49:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says use the pot,  1:49:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says God my throat! It hurts! 1:50:17 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says mine hurts for real 1:50:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says lol 1:50:27 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says connor? could you wayk up me? 1:50:50 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says /look PksamD! 1:51:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says if anyone has protine bars wich he or she is not gonna eat, i'll happely traid them for fish or so ... 1:51:38 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says hmm, 1:51:39 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says done, 1:52:10 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says PksamD!  trust me. 1:52:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I can give you protein bars. 1:53:19 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says where are you? 1:53:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says hehehehe 1:53:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says in the swamp. 1:53:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says can someone give me sword and shield? 1:53:43 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says PksamD! killd 1:53:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says hold on. 1:53:45 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says crap. that's far away 1:53:45 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says PksamD! trust me I want to see you fight. 1:54:02 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says PksamD! is a nubie fighter 1:54:20 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says you mean see me get killed? all I have is a knife and a revolver. 1:54:28 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says lol 1:54:36 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says who are you fighting. 1:54:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm killd you by revolver 1:54:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says dont using grenades 1:54:58 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says yeah, and your gona pay for that 1:55:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm fighting with only  revolver 1:55:22 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says alireza.nosrati trust me. 1:55:25 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says hmm 1:55:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says walter, you done? 1:55:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, akilor says seems i can always make a pk char, is that even allowed? 1:55:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says yeh 1:55:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says trust me cedersan 1:55:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says no way, I will die. 1:56:26 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says me! 1:56:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says fine 1:56:32 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says lets fight then. no rules, no nothing 1:56:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Jimmy says where are you all fighting? 1:56:47 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, criticview says yay 1:56:48 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, criticview says akilor changed apperance 1:56:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says but first I will wait for walter to return my grenades 1:56:56 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says you will not fight that person with your energy 1:57:17 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I don't even have a weapon, I have a revolver, but nothing else. 1:57:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says i will not acssept your fight, i'm new, so i can't fight, i can't escape from your grenads 1:57:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, PksamD! says hey diana can you give me sword and shield? 1:57:30 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i have revolver grenade knife 1:57:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I'm pissed... 1:57:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says stop being a prat conner 1:57:46 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says if I fight,  if I die,  does that mean I lose everything even  if it were planned? 1:57:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, criticview says brb 1:58:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, the_best_killer says sorry, 1:58:01 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says okay then, but can I at least have back what you took? 1:58:05 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says yes but if he fight against you I will personely restaur you 1:58:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says pretty please with sugar and cherries on top? 1:58:16 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I will fight you but I need a weapon other than a revolver. 1:58:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says hold on] 1:58:42 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says fight with only revolver ok? 1:58:49 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says I need to beet minthirst first 1:58:57 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says just use the inv command to give yourself a lot of antibiotics and use them 1:59:12 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says the what command? 1:59:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says its only for admins 1:59:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says what is command? 1:59:53 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, cedersan says I am not an admin. Although, I probably  could contribute very well if I were. 1:59:54 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says please type command 2:00:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says me too 2:00:00 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says we could see in time 2:00:03 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, criticview says wow this is odd to start again ... 2:00:09 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says aspetially because I am in the gmt time zone and there are no gmt admins 2:00:13 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says where are you from? 2:00:24 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, criticview says who? 2:00:29 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says austria 2:00:34 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says me? 2:00:35 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says I'm in gmt +1 2:00:39 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says ah 2:00:40 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says i'm in iran 2:00:55 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says what time is there now? 2:00:59 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, connor says 22:01 2:01:06 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, Walter-2 says damet my client crashed! 2:01:08 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, alireza.nosrati says 12 30 AM 2:01:21 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, MarkAborde says hmm. 5:01 AM here 2:01:44 PM, 1/20/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says no? 12:18:12 AM, 1/21/2016
out of character, DianaAborde says lol 3:43:55 PM, 1/27/2016

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2016-03-09 16:03:44

That is a lie. I returned conners grenades and every thing he will tell you the same

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2016-03-09 16:07:51

I returned all conners grenades after the fight

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2016-03-09 16:52:44

I have nothing to say here as I don't know Lori, Walter or even STW all that well. Let me just ask two simple questions and make one brief remark.

Ishan:
1. How old are you?
2. What country are you from?
3. You said Lori should have contacted Dark privately before writing about this to the forum, and that she hasn't done so. If you read both of Dark's posts carefully an understood them, you would have known that she has in deed contacted Dark privately before writing here, and that Dark has even encouraged her to speak out publicly.

Thanks,
Lukas

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2016-03-09 17:05:25

When the time comes I will review information that I am going to question

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2016-03-09 17:53:50

Hi I just want to say this to all. lori's char send the following mesige to the game
out of character, astra says i'm frozen, this is wierd and I made a  responce to this by sending a notification for all to see it.
I Walter just want to tell every one that is on this game to day. Even if I have personal problems with the char Astra I would not do enny thing to her char in the game. This is the game so and if she send a admintell mesige I will help her. It is my job to do that. I just want every one to know

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2016-03-09 18:04:56

@David, while I appreciate the comments, this  situation isn't really involved with Walters behaviour as regards the administrating of stw, eg, taking grenades from someone. That is an internal matter for the game admins to sort out, and were that the only type of issue here I'd likely have just suggested to Lori that she take it up with the other admins of stw or stop playing.

It's the cyber stalking, manipulation and generally nasty behaviour towards lori and several other girls that is the issue.

This isn't really something that can btracked e with log files sinse logs can be falsified fairly easily. Were such accusations made of an audiogames.net mod, I'd likely temporarily remove their mod status and possibly temporarily ban them while I questioned both parties and investigated the affair, and sute my actions accordingly while attempting to remain impartial.

What Sam or other stw admins do is their business, however as I said previously, I encouraged Lori to speak up about this precisely because! these sorts of behaviours thrive on secrecy, and people should be made aware of what has happened, particularly because as I said previously, Lori has never made such accusations before and has been a long standing community member (Look at her date of forum registration , and also bare in mind she was on the audeasy list before she made her forum account).

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2016-03-09 18:41:49

Dark Lori clamed I made another skype account to try to talk to her I did not do that.

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2016-03-09 18:47:37

I don't even have the software  installed on my pc to solve a capture and I only have 1 skype account  my skype ID is walterjfw I did not even try to contact her through skype after I got blocked and this how I work I might do menny thing wrongs in my life but not this.

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2016-03-09 18:52:24

With in the past 3 months I began changing thing how I work in my life. Because I rellized that I was doing some thing wrong. I regret all the things I did wrong. But just again I never made a skype account to try and contact lory again.

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2016-03-09 19:05:32

please?Dark I send you a pm please look at it please?

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2016-03-09 20:16:21

Hey all. So let me start off by saying I had no idea things had gotten this bad. I actually had talked to walter about this situation as I told her I would, and the way the conversation had played out, it made it sceme like a misunderstanding. I got one chat log from lorry and she said she felt uncomfortable, and walter made it sould like he'd made a mistake and this log was to try to make her feel better. With lorries permission I or she can post this log here so you guys can get a better understanding. I completely forgot to tell lorry I had talked to walter, I did this right before I got into bed at like 3 in the morning my time. But basicly... that was all I heard about the situation. I knew walter had done some of this before and have talked to him about them. I had gotten the log of the grenades thing via email and talked to walter about it and never heard of that again. Remember I can only go off of what I see / reports. I only figured out about this topic very very recently. I choose not to involve my self with personal issues, but I will have a very serious talk about all of this new information with walter, and make sure that nothing like this happens  when it comes to stw again. This thing with the new account was utterly rediculis and will not! Be tollerated! Again I will not get into the personal lives of lorry and walter on this situation but I can assure you all that stw will not be an area whare admins can make lives harder. If I continue receiving reports about walter after our talk, serious action will be taken acordingly. Again i'm sorry about not getting my self real involved with this earlier, like I said I only got all of this information as a hole now, so I have a hold host of info now to work with now on this.

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2016-03-09 20:34:37

wow... i can say i have walter on skype and i talk to him on STW and have never been treated badly or anything, i am sorry people r saying these things about him as he has never in any way treated me badly and i am a female, i do no he did tell us on skype someone hacked his account and was sending messages to people pretending to b him and i am glad he let me no. sorry i no this shouldn't b a topic on here but... i had to say this because i think with her having issues with walter and her putting them on here its dragging his name threw the mud and thats totally wrong of her... just because u guys r not friends and have your issues don't mean that everyone should think him a bad vial person like u say because he is not. Sam please don't listen to all this crap and the fact walter said he was sorry and it wasn't even him on skype shows he is a good person. as far as him being a admin he has never abused his possision as far as i have seen and i no a lot of people that play and agree, i have however noticed that not walter but other admins have lost there temper and... said things they shouldn't b saying as a person in charge but if we complain about every little thing they do as admins what would b the point in having them because, everyone will find something wrong with someone and its quite senceless. as far as him helping her in the game after muting her that should b aloud admin or not... u shouldn't have to here people that talk about u your still human as long as he says he will still help if she needs it... and, as long as he will help and forfill his role as admin then he just like players and other admins should b able to mute people. i am sorry u had to deal with all this walter and everyone have a good day

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2016-03-09 21:13:16

Right, look at this log, I had, and it seems to me that Walter is a guy on the power trip. Look how he gets in there and micromanages everything even though there's no need to do so. and he takes the grenades and stuff. He's one who gets high off the power it seems to me, and from that, its not too far a stretch that he could get abusive to female players. Its always the guys who put a nice front on who are evil. You ever seen a serial killer who was hated by everyone, naw, they are loved by the community. Now, that's a whole other issue and I'm not making those kinds of accusations, or putting Walter in that kind of category. I'm just saying, it seems to me he could be abusive from what I've seen in the log.

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2016-03-09 23:08:30

Walter is a good guy and I don't believe lori
I think Lori is [email protected] y you don't talk with Walter before you said to Lori write here?
I think you and Lori only want to band Walter and fix so peoyles don't want to talk with him
If you was a good moderator you should talk with Walter before you said to Lori to speak here

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2016-03-09 23:41:22

To the person who says walter is a nice guy and explains everything, it might seem that way, but from my and others experiences of him he is as has been stated by others than me, a power hungry, cold and calculating  person who gets kicks out of manipulating people whom he believes to be weaker than himself.  As reguards those comments you spoke to him about Sam, they weren't actually made during the stw podcast I did with him, but during a Skype call when he slated the recordings of 2 fellow podcasters, and although I know these 2 good people wouldn't give 2 hoots what anyone would think about their recordings, it still made me very angry, so I tried to tell Walter so in an adult manner, but received only fowel language in return.  Also, when he feels he can't get a grip on a situation anymore, that's when he turns on the emotional sob stories, which I'm heartly sick of, and just talking to someone like him who has no real compassion or human feelings isn't enough, he has to be the centre of attention, and woe betide you if you don't do things his way.  Finally, I'm not out to turn this into a witch hunt, I'm far too adult for that, my main intention is to warn any females logging onto stw to take care you don't get the same demanding treatement as Walter gave my friend.  He's an admin on that game, and as such, he should have respect for all players no matter who they are, and be adult enough to just mute anyone he didn't like, instead of trying to act all tough and saying he had ways and means of checking up on my friend.  That isn't the mark of a professional adult admin at all. 
From Lori.

out of my mind, back in 5 minutes.

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2016-03-10 01:07:14

Guys, I think we should stop bashing on walter, what I really care about, understabdibly, is what is happening on survive the wild. I do not wish to get into loads of unneeded drama, but like I said I will be talking to walter, have, a little, and if I get more reports of this, he will be instantly demoted as admin. The reason some people like him and some people don't is that he scemes to have very compartmentalized feelings. he feels and treets you one way, and someone else completely different. I've scene this a fiew times, but that's why. Again though I wish not to get into what's happening with walter and other people for the time being or at least in this forum topic, but rather how we can fix the admin issue/ussues. Someone said there are much worse admins and they still get away with a lot of stuff... well guys... I can't do anything about it if I have no reports of the admins actions. Please do not hesitate to report things to me, it's very much encouraged by me, because with out reports I can do almost nothing.

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2016-03-10 02:14:10

Moderation!

I have now recieved two private accounts of Water's behaviour, both of which tally, and one of which was by someone who is too afraid to actively speak out in public, afraid of actual physical harm or blackmail or worse. This is now a matter of the safety of members of this community, and for that reason Walter has been banned.

yes, Walter denies these allegations, but based on the facts I've heard a decision must be made and the safety of members of this community is my concern.

Sam as admin of survive the wild is welcome to do as he sees fit, but I would recommend that people steer clear of Walter as an actively dangerous person who preys on emotionally vulnerable people.

I am fairly sure complaints will be recieved about this, however as I said, member safety is my primary concern here, and I would recommend Sam make it his as well, whatever supposedly helpful things Walter has done in the past sinse as Ironcross says, most nasty people are very able to chalm what they want out of others.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

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2016-03-10 02:40:37

Hi, I'd just like to thank everyone including Dark for being on my side, and as to people who are against me and think I'm dragging Walter's supposed good name through the mud, well good for you for not being on the receiving end of his abuse, and I'm glad you haven't had to suffer what I and my friends have had too at Walter's hands. 
Sam, don't worry about not getting involved sooner, I'd intended to send you this morning's log of stw, but hadn't gotten round to it with one thing and another, however it's saved along with all the others, for if it's needed. 
Finally, the reason I'm not posting the logs here publically is because I don't wish to turn this into even more of a drama than it already is, and to people who stand by Walter, all I can say is never get on his bad side, and 2 make sure you know who your true friends are, friends who stand by you and look out for you, not just givers of virtual things.

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2016-03-10 05:57:31

Hi lorry, if you could chat me those logs i'd very much apreciate it. I truely never knew things had eskilated this far. My intent was to try to hopefully get it resolved with out having to demote someone but I guess I never understood how bad things had gotten. I will look at the logs and make my disision. I thought walter had done some things on survive the wild that was harmful to some people so I was going to tell him as I told all you guys that if he didn't stop things would happen, but I guess this goes beyond adminship. I can only ban people for what they've done on stw, so if you have stw logs that could be very helpful. I'm not sure what reports dark received and that is none of my buisness, but when it comes to stw... I need to know what's going on. I really wish I would have known about this sooner so I could have done something about it but I guess I never quite got the full scope of what was actually going on.

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2016-03-10 06:19:47

@Sam, whether Lori or the other people involved choose to give you details of what happened is up to them, however for myself my chief concern is for the safety of the members of this forum sinse people were telling me theye did not feel safe, and given some of the things I heard I'm not surprised.

Normally I would totally agree that what is done on an online game or on skype stays off the forum for the most part (why we have the rule against complaining about game admins), however when this became about people's safety in a potentially criminal situation I felt action was needed, and i really don't! do this lightly.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

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2016-03-10 08:21:27

shit!
walter is banned!
well at the end
O my god!
What you have done.
I hope that this will be the temporary one!
sensitivity is the weapon which can kill every fighter and every brave person.
in history this had many stories but this one I never expect.
Maybe Lord will blessed you (expension needed) with viveka(presence of mind)
I even don't want your thanks.
Maybe this post is witty but you have understood what I have said.
I did what I want to.
Now
did according to your wishes.
But what?
you tell me you knows rather haha I don't know still in the confusion.
is this harsh?
to post 22?
Thanks
ishan

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But sooner or later who win the one who thinks he can!

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2016-03-10 08:24:49

Hi. @dark I agree with your stance on this hole thing. And in no way am I attempting to force information out of anyone on the forum. I never knew the situation got this out of control with walter. I'm meerly saying that if I don't get any reports, I can't do much on the part of stw. Sorry if I caused any misunderstandings. Because... well, I havn't scene walter do anything like this aside from a formensioned chat log mensioned in one of my previous post, and it had nothing to do with stw. I don't want peoples experience on stw to be ruined by bad admins on stw but with nothing said to me about it I can't do much. I totally get what you were saying with the criminal action thing and with what I know, agree.

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2016-03-10 09:15:44

sorry to lori duncan!
you said "warning to all who plays survive the wild
have you specified females first?
or this topic should require general gaming discussion?
don't use trickster's charm because I have more power to resist.

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2016-03-10 09:37:13

Hi.
Wow, damn I'm kind of shocked. Walter must really have done something extreme behind the scene to be banned from the forum. I have no idea on what he has done, but I'm shocked because I didn't saw that come, especially because of the way he have replied here in the topic. Personally I don't have anything against him, and Lori, you are just awesome!
@Sam: Regarding Survive the wild, I have something which I hope you'll consider to make the game better for everyone:
What are the rules for the admins in the game? If there currently aren't any rules, then I'll suggest that you make some very simple rules, and that needs to be done really fast.
Is it okay to just remove items from other players if they are not cheating or braking any of the rules in the game? I'm not asking because Walter removed items from people, but just in generel. My second question is: Is it okay that an admin changes the players stats like the energy, hunger and thirst so it fits the other players, just because people wanna fight? Third question: Is an admins job to give out randomly requested items just because players are asking for it? In my opinion, that's an admin who is too powerful and  who don't really understand what the role of an admin really is.
In my opinion, an admin is there to help if people have questions, if they get stuck, if their character is in a situration where only an admin is able to fix it, to help out newbies etc. Admins shouldn't even be able to change peoples characters like this, just because he/she feels like doing it, take items from people etc. What is the point of the game, if an admin just gives out stuff when requested? An admin should be nutrel and should never be on one of the players side, no matter what's going on. Finally, an admin should just act as an admin when it's the admin character which is logged in, and feel free to act like he/she normally would do when the admins normal player character is logged in.
That's of course only my opinions, but I really recommend you to think about this as soon as possible, and make some admin rules to stop drama like this in the future.

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