Hi victor.

welcome to the forum, and especially when you bring such good news. . 

I  can't wait to try the update myself, and it is certainly true we have had a fair amount of discussion of the game. as to the db entry, well people can find it from the dropdown atht at the front of site as per usual, and I'll update the  links if they're not working.

As regards screen reader access changes, well the game  itself is  generally completely fine. you can check this yoruself sinse both  winglulx and filfre have self voicing output with microsoft sapi (find it in the tools, speech menue in winglulx and I believe the tools menue of filfre).   If your using the windows default voice (microsoft sam on windows xp and microsoft  anna on windows 7), you will probably have speech that sounds like a cyberman on drugs, but it will at least show what text is output. Needless to say, anyone who uses sapi output will generally have better voices available, or will use their own screen reading software, either of which will sound better, but that should give an idea.

the only real access issue that occurs to me is with the help system, and that isn't so much a problem with  kerkerkruip as it is a problem with the way help in Winglulx  happens.

this is because the list of help topics uses a  greaterthan sign, ie, > to mark which option in the list is selected, and not all screen readers will read that sign, plus having to listen through to all! the options to see which one is selected or run through them line by line with a virtual screen  review curser can be a bit time consuming.

The ideal would be to change the menue system to a numeric one, eg 1 starters, 2 stats, 3  creddits etc, but I'd imagine programming this would be  impractical.

so, would it be possible to simply have a  text file with the help written in it? (not a  pdf for preference sinse generally pdfs need converting to text anyway to be read  efficiently by a screen reader).

other than that, the game is great, indeed in making an  if game in the   style of a roguelike, you've also massively  improved access, sinse access in roguelikes is not particularly good, which is another reason people have been so interested in the game.

Actually blindncool,  winglulx will output to sapi as well, not surprising sinse both programs were I believe made by david kinda.

I can't recall precisely where the output settings is and I don't have winglulx on the laptop I'm using at the moment, but I'll check the setting when I either download one or get back to my desktop, (I think it was somewhere equally obvious like being in the options item of the tools menue).

Hi guys, I'm one of the other Kerkerkruip developers. I also develop Parchment (iplayif.com.) I'd love to make Parchment more accessible, but that's a big project for the future.

Improving menus should be an easier task. We could add numbers, but I have another idea. Are you able to use hyperlinks? If you're not sure this file has some test links: http://www.eblong.com/zarf/glulx/windowtest.ulx Enter "link" at the prompt.

If links do work then we could make each menu option a link, which I presume would be even easier to use than giving numbers to each option. If this works then I'll try to get the new menu system adopted for all future Inform games.

Hi Victor and other Kerkerkruip developers,
Welcome to the forum. I'd just like to say I believe numeric menues would be the easiest, as I use virtual revision from NVDA which simply makes the window a text document thing which you then close, and continue to play the game using normal commands. Flat review in NVDA didn't really work properly with this, as it showed lines above and sometimes chopped off parts of text, but not too offten.

Hi:

Hyperlinks do not work in the winglulxe interpreter.  However, when I ran that file via:
http://iplayif.com/?story=http://www.eb … owtest.ulx

I could click the hyperlinks, and everything worked just perfectly.  Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what improvements need to be made to parchment to make it more accessible.  It already feels more comfortable than Windows Glulxe to me, as it is. 

In order to give it a bit of a harder test, I went and played the latest version of Kerkerkruip with it, to see if I would have any problems.  I didn't.  Unlike in Windows Glulxe, Parchment doesn't leave little strange bits of extra text sitting around for NVDA to read and be confused by.  The only thing that could maybe be improved is Parchment could some how read out the new game text as it is displayed, so I wouldn't have to use the NVDA virtual cursor to read it.  Have you looked at something like
https://github.com/hiddentao/google-tts#readme
This might do the trick.  Or if you don't want to depend on Google and an internet connection then:
https://github.com/kripken/speak.js
should be helpful for you.  That is, amazingly enough, a TTS synth written *entirely* in JavaScript.  That kind of makes me afraid. 

For the curious, the following is my play log from when I was testing Kerkerkruip in Parchment. I used the NVDA virtual cursor to copy it to the clipboard, so this is exactly what parchment shows to NVDA while playing.  As far as I know, it didn't miss anything, and the formatting is much, much cleaner than Win Glulxe. Those who don't want extremely small spoilers might want to stop reading.

<blockquote>
When you claimed that you were tough enough to take on Malygris single-handedly, everyone knew you had been drinking much more than was good for you. And the prince is not one to let an opportunity pass. Before you could so much as protest, his court mage opened a portal and you were shoved through. Predictably, the portal immediately disappeared. You doubt they're going to open it up again -- but at least you can try to make good on your boast and kill Malygris, the Wizard of Kerkerkruip!
Kerkerkruip - Release 6
An IF roguelike by Victor Gijsbers
Release 6 / Serial number 121103 / Inform 7 build 6G60 (I6/v6.32 lib 6/12N)
Entrance Hall
The vast entrance hall is empty, silent, foreboding. Skull-sized rubies project a red light far too bright for the eyes of a human.
Exits lead north, south, east and west.
>n
Temple of Sul
The only feature breaking the monotony of the circular room made of polished white marble is a huge statue. Hewn from flawless mountain crystal, it portrays the goddess Sul.
You recognise a complicated stone contraption in a corner as a teleportation beacon. It seems to be inactive.
You can also see a scroll labelled MORT EILYSH here.
An exit leads south (to Entrance Hall).
>get scroll
Taken.
>look beacon
When turned on, this beacon will ensure that all teleportations in Kerkerkruip lead to this room.
>turn on beacon
With a confident magical gesture, you turn on the teleportation beacon. All teleportations in the dungeon will now end up here.
>pray
Sul is displeased with your spurious prayer!
>s
Entrance Hall
The vast entrance hall is empty, silent, foreboding. Skull-sized rubies project a red light far too bright for the eyes of a human.
Exits lead north (to Temple of Sul), south, east and west.
>s
Library
Hundreds of books line the walls of this magnificent library, a bigger collection than the already legendary one of the marquis of Savon. Malygris even has a scroll analyser installed.
Exits lead north (to Entrance Hall), south and up.
>put scroll in machine
(the scroll labelled MORT EILYSH in the scroll analyser)
It is a scroll of curse removal!
>s
Drawing Room
This otherwise unremarkable room has been decorated with a fascinating drawing.
Thin clouds of smoke fill the room.
Exits lead north (to Library), south, west and up.
>s
Phantasmagoria
This huge hall is filled with the radiant images of warriors long dead, fighting their bloody battles over and over again. You see flaming bolts, fired by huge ballistae, flying right over your head -- but the scene changes before you can focus on any details.
A vast slug covered in green ooze has positioned itself in this room.
You can also see Mouser, Fafhrd and the Blessed Grenade here.
Exits lead north (to Drawing Room) and west.
Act>look slug
It is of the dreaded race of mindslugs, abominations that use their telepathic powers to enslave others.
The mindslug is a level three living hostile creature.
Act>retreet
That noun did not make sense in this context.
Act>retreat
Deciding that discretion is the better part of valour, you bravely run away.
Drawing Room
This otherwise unremarkable room has been decorated with a fascinating drawing.
Thin clouds of smoke fill the room.
Exits lead north (to Library), south (to Phantasmagoria), west and up.
> 
</blockquote>

Ah yes, NVDA is "very!" popular. If you wish to learn moe, and check it out, visit:
http://nvda-project.org/
, to learn more, and to download a copy!
Also, I made a central topic on here for NVDA discussion called "NV Talk," which also has links to other community web sites and more!
Please let us all know if ya have any NVDA nips along the way!

Is there a link for parchment?  I saw a link to the web site describing it, but never found how to get it.

The IFDB gives links to Parchment for each game, so here for example is Kerkerkruip's: http://ifdb.tads.org/viewgame?id=f7zdhxmiraht53d1

Gnusto is actually part of Parchment! It was the original virtual machine, however I have since written my own VM and Gnusto is only used for z3 games (or if you specifically ask for it, but as it has bugs that would be silly.)

I would love to make Parchment the number one accessible interpreter, so if you do have any comments on critiques, no matter how harsh, I'll be happy to receive them.

hmmm...
I'm lost with how parchment is suppose to work. I guess in the edit box, you are suppose to type where ya want to go. I wish this program had Aria in it, so that it would speak what was needed on the screen.
Then ya wouldn't need to glance up at the menu so much.
I'll try and play the game now using Partchment with Firefox and IE using Window-Eyes 8 beta 2, and NVDA, latest version, although I'm running a snapshot. Shall also try with Chromevox.
I was trying to move around the help screen. No luck there...
Ah, I'm using IE9, in the case of Explorer, Firefox 16.0, and Chromevox 1.2.3, with Chrome dev, which think is v25

Trenton:

The way it works is:
1.  Activate the edit box and type a command, then press enter.
2.  Get out of the edit box, and review the results of your command.  They'll appear just above the edit box.
3.  For the help menu: use n to move to the next item, and p to go to the previous one.  You need not press enter after typing n or p.  To tell what menu item is selected, find the menu item with the > (greater than) symbol in front of it.  To select that menu item, go to the edit box, activate it, and press enter.
4.  In the case of Kerkerkruip, when it asks you to press space to start a new game, you just get into the edit box and press space; you don't need to press enter at this point, either.  You can tell it worked because, at least on my machine, it will freeze the entire machine (browser, screen reader, everything) for about 25 seconds or so. 

Note: when I say activate the edit box, I mean, in the case of NVDA, press insert plus space on it, to get into the mode where you can type. What is NVDA calling this today? Forms mode? Application mode? pass through mode?  MSAA? It seems screen readers collectively rename this mode every 6 months or so.

Somewhat off topic here, but the distribution of enemies always being the same makes game play less different each time than it might be.  There is an optimal order to do things in which does not change.  If you couldn't count on the distribution, it might make for more replayability.

themadviolinist: If there is an optimal order to do things, can you please post it?  I've played, like, 10 times, and not yet managed to win a single game.  The closest I got was when I was fighting the wizard, but I forgot about my mind score and sprouted too many tentacles.  If it wasn't for that, I think I finally might have won game number 10. *sigh!*