i

agree 100%. this stupid, idiotic, moronic complaining must stop. the game

will be released, when it is released. robbin24: the game is delayed! it has

not gone to plan! you should not have pri-ordered. i always wait til the

game's out before trying to order. just in case these things happen. and,

with alchemy, it has! and i think if ya get your money back, you will be

disappointed. the game might come out at that moment you get your money bak,

and you'll be like, "i want the game! all that money for a waist!"
so...

guys, stop! complaining! you! are! not! helping! anyone! if anything, you!

are! making! people! angry! and! cross!
reguards,
aaron!

the

mistake you did is, you pre-ordered sometimes it delays and you will have to

wait longer without your $x without no game

Oh

for the love of Bob please shut up! I'm sorry for my language but this is

really getting old! It's no wonder we've lost those developers that we

have. If I'm not mistaken BPC is no longer developing  for exactly this

reason! That's assuming that what I heard is correct of course. I'll say

this one last time. Stop! complaining! or! we'll! lose! more! developers!

Even the ones that don't come on here (and is anybody else noticing that

fewer developers seem to come  one here?) I'm sure can find out about thse

things. Word has a way of spreading. Too much more and we could lose

everyting. The audio game market is small enough as it is. Let's not

jeopardize it for the love of Bob!

Please

remember that web sites aren't always up to date. There are many things

which can get in the way, lack of time for one thing. Don't ever take

what's on a company's web site as gospel, so to speak.

audio

flames? heh. that is a kinda funny name. but i agree a million percent,

stop.

@cx2
I can only agree to your statement. Every time is there a chance,

that last minute problems can occur. Such problems can prevent a developer

from releasing a product on the annunced release date. I won't complain

about monti (I mean not to flame anyone9) but I have one question: In Montis

case, If the developer has a serious problem, why can't he make a statement

that tells "I am sorry, to say, that Monti will take some more time to

release". That would be understood from every gamer who waits of the game.

It seems to be true, that the website tells "the game is shipping", even if

that isn't the case.
To the Webmaster of this page: please delete these

dammen complaining and flaming posts and their creators as well!!!
By the

way: Does anyone know, what is with CM 2 from BPC Programs and danger city

as well as final conflict and the star wars game from usagames?
To all the

complainers: You aren't welcome here!!! Shut up and go there, where you

come from!!! You destroy the little market of audiogames that we have

here!!! What if Bacvisoft get such dammen messages?!!! I want Chillingham 2

and no message that says that Bavisoft doesn't exist anymore because of

your posts!!!
To all of you, who want a good game: wait some more time and

when it comes out, it will probably be one of the best games for the

Blind.
Bye,
Lord_Raven

as

for dc and cm II, they are no longer undere development because of these

complainers. um, well i don't think that was because of dc, but i know it

was for cm II.

Anybody who thinks Monty doesn't exist is just bonkers. We have the

manual for the game and a trailer. Nobody goes through that much trouble to

fool people into thinking a game exists. We're very close to seeing a demo.

James has a heeping lot on his plate at the moment. I'm extremely

frustrated with all the missed release dates as well. Playing a game like

Monty is a dream I've had for twenty years. I haven't been able to

concentrate much on my own game due to the nail-biting anticipation of

thinking the game's only a day away from being out only to have something

go wrong at the last minute. I can certainly sympathise with people who feel

impatient. However, a little more faith and patience will go a long way

here. Due to how things have worked out, even people who don't purchase

Monty will be getting a fantastic unlimited demo which will basically be a

free mini-game in itself.

As a new developer and old gamer, I've

certainly looked up to James North's acomplishments over the years. His one

area of weakness is in communications. Keeping people on the edge of their

seets about a game's release and promising release dates which are then

missed is very damaging to people's faith and patience. In his case, he's

facing some unusual circumstances. He certainly didn't want this to happen.

He could have soared back into the gaming community had he met his

pre-year's end deadline. As things are, even after Monty comes out, his

victory will be hollowed by the lack of trust he's unfortunately produced.

It's going to take me years to create my first game. Family issues and

other things are going to get in my way. There are lots of other concerns I

have in life. However, I can promise that nobody will be left dangling by a

thin thread of excitement thinking I'm about to release a game. I may even

wait until somebody finds out by accident that the game's ready to be

purchased and downloaded before making my announcement. Waiting for Monty

and seeing a good man get crucified has been a kind of torture for me. I

still have absolute faith that James will ultimately win through and we'll

have a taste of true game greatness. Hang in there, people.

Here at Bavisoft we have received complaints from people who want to know a

release date. We do  not provide one for the very reasons we are

experiencing. rest assured, Bavisoft still exists and we are in the middle

of developing Chillingham 2.

We have many other ideas too but hesitate

to leak any information so we do not cause any undue frustration by those

awaiting the ideas to manifest themselves into playable games. Most ideas

never make beyond the concept stage, even less make it into any form of a

program, and only the ones we release ever get the sounds recorded.

We

thank all of you who have supported Bavisoft in the past and hope you will

continue to do so in the future. We understand that our games are not

everyone's cup of tea, but not every game, or even genre of games will

please everyone. If our games do not meet your fancy, we hope that one of

the other games available will be enjoyable to you. Happy gaming.

When

developers are getting complaints about delays, not in forums but in their

inbox, this is when things have gone *way* too far. (as if they hadn't

already)

A game being delayed is *not* a reason to harass, pester and

generally annoy developers. The simple answers would be:
1) Never, ever

preorder
2) Offer the developers the same respect and courtesy you would

expect from them, since these are individuals and not companies
3) Have

some bloody patience! Sorry for the language, but this is getting

ridiculous.
4) Don't ask developers when, it's for them to tell us not

the other way around. You don't like the way the market works, tough. If

you want things to work differently try making your own games using your

principles, but remember if you complain about other developers and then

start developing yourself you might draw criticisms for the exact same

things and for using whatever practices you use.

Here's the situations

that can happen:
Company is transparent about possible release

dates:
People complain when the game is delayed, even though the dates are

only provisional.
Company says nothing about release dates:
People

complain that the game will never be released, or doesn't exist

What are

developers supposed to do? They get flak either way, it's a no win

situation. The only solution is to stop whittering, for heaven's sake

please, please stop whittering. You're killing the enthusiasm of

developers, and you're killing my enthusiasm as a gamer.

Now please lets

not talk any more about release dates here.

the

price of what: montezuma's revenge or top speed 2? i did not know that top

speed 2 was priced, so i think it's montezuma's revenge they are talking

about.