Jade:
 
I agree. But there's just something I don't get here, and it's where I disagree with 196. This started because Camlorn talked about his synth's speech rate. He is, as far as I know, a programmer. So this means he can read things, e.g. manuals, faster than the rest of us. Cool.

What's any of that got to do with how fast a mouse is, like seriously guys you just can't conceive of how damn fast this thing makes sighted people? I don't think you use a mouse a lot in programming, you're writing code. I guess if you're copying and pasting a lot of code, then sure. But I mean, again, I just feel like these two things, reading and processing speed vs. mouse speed, aren't related like, at all.

So it's not just that Camlorn's not using examples I like. It's that he's just tossing stuff out, faster processing of reading, oh and then a mouse, oh and then this game over here! And there's just nothing to back it up. Like cool, I'll generally be slower than a sighted person for tasks X Y and Z, groovy, we can all agree on that.

Where's this claim that the absolute best I can do is be as good at those tasks as the slowest sighted person? Because Camlorn said that, and did absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up that claim. No example. Nothing about how him and this dude had a race and the dude got it done in half the time. No studies. Just this pronouncement that this is how it is, so we'd all better deal. And when I say "I", I don't mean me, Khomus, personally. I mean me, Khomus, as an example of a blind person. Or any other blind person among us without usable vision, because presumably if you have enough usable vision, you can use the inconceivable awesomeness that is a mouse and leave any thirty blind people in the dust of your productivity.

Look, let's say Camlorn is absolutely, 100%, incontrovertibly correct about every single thing he's claimed in his thread, and I'm totally wrong. That doesn't matter. Because it's just a bunch of claims he's making. No arguments. No evidence. Just pronouncements from on high. And often, they're about things that have nothing whatsoever to do with one another, e.g. synth reading speed vs. what a mouse can do for the sighted but not for us. Camlorn's ability to read and comprehend a giant manual in an hour isn't affected by the fact that Sven can zoom around the screen with his mouse and rearrange things in five seconds instead of the thirty seconds it would take me or Camlorn to do it with the keyboard. Sven can rearrange his Argentinian cowboy metal songs as fast as he wants, it is completely and utterly unrelated to what blind people can or can not do with a synthesizer.