OK guys, please help. I still cannot read this damn map LOL. I sort of get it, you have to use control arrows to move around, but I don't understand what it's telling me and I can't work out how to find the path with the most rest sites for example. can someone explain step by step how they do it and what the thing reads out? apologies I@m sure it's been answered way back but I can't find it. it seems you can move from side to side anywhere you want on the map and I thought it locked you into a path even when using control arrows.

1003, we could chat over voice some time if you like, discord maybe. PM me if you like

The ctrl arrows/right stick cursor is a viewer; it doesn't move you on the map directly.

1005 flight sounds interesting. is that kind of sort of cheating? theoretically you could get a card, hop to a rest site, upgrade it etc etc.

It does let you cheat if you want to, yes, though you're still limited to the choices at the floor of the spire that you've reached. The flight mod doesn't let you just jump to floor 15 when you're at floor 1 -- all it does is give you the in-game flight modifier which you can get in custom mode or via the winged boots relic. The Flight effect gives you free selection between the various options on the same floor, it doesn't give you omnipotent movement.
Mind you, what is cheating in a single player game? Game how you like. I used it because it gives me much better ability to explore the branches and floors.

Sure, I get that. but what I don't get, ok let's say we start on a monster I hit ctrl up, it says monster monster monster unknown. I understand there are 3 monsters then an unknown. that makes sense to me. but if I ctrl cursor left and right at this point, it seems to move. so does that mean the map virtual buffer auto moves you to the choice? and the choice is unknown plus something else?  in other words, does ctrl up always move you to the next branch point on a path?

If it doesn't say choice, it's not choice. But the last item on each path of a map is always choice so if it's monster monster monster choice unknown, that's where it's going to branch out and moving left and right from there moves you between the choices, some of which may cross paths with other choices in later paths. Remember the coords, that's all I gotta say. You'll need it big time if you want to do heart run, to hunt for kburning elites for key.

it's control y, not y.

Does anyone know if the downfall expansion mod works with say the spire? I imagine using the boss's doesn't work properly, different UI? but not sure.

1,014 heart run? Oh boy I'm nowhere near that good yet. I've only beaten the game on act 3 twice in the 90 hours I@ve played it, once with iron clad yesterday on strength build and once with silent, more by luck than anything else. Gonna be a very long time before I can even try the heart.

Thanks Mata I think I won't install it then. A shame, but completely understandable. I might get the hermit as a seperate character if he works, that could be fun and flight does sound interesting.

Press f at the card selection screen. This is also how you activate certain relics, though I can't remember off the top of my head what relics can be activated this way.

The Hermit is great fun. Its new mechanic of dead-on card effects is a unique twist on card management.