about @ 73. Yes Yes! now I understand why the blind community here and elsewhere is rubbish, my god. stop it because it's getting stupid. we just wanted to see what the game was like, i da  if the game was just squeeze and wait. fuck no one cares what you think, but what the person lives

@76-78:

In commercialy sold Indie games, flat out using, let's say, a Ferrari with the badge on it, without any sort of license and just shoving it into a GTA-esque game. IndieDB prominently showed those screenshots and the studio got called out on it. Guess what? When the final game released? They didn't alter any of it. Brazil, like it or not, has a reputation for that sort of thing among certain groups of gamers, but equally their studios are revered by certain other groups for putting out fantastic high quality games, even with the stereotype of ripping content and using it in games without a care.

Now. I'm not saying /all/ Brazilian devs are like this. Hell, I just said up there Brazilian studios can, and do, put out some incredible games, and they have put out some incredible simulation videogames among others, but equally, there have 110% been cases of Brazilian studios just flouting copyright law and when called out on it, not fixing it in the final, paid, game. Here's the thing. I get it. You think i'm insulting your country. I get it. But I'mm stating facts, I have seen it happen on sites like IndieDB and places like Steam, and I have, somewhere, on a hard drive, saved logs from the main DM dev stating how pissed off he was at the community and was so sick of it and pulled a vanishing act. DM was, in terms of DMPA, unstable, buggy, and closely resembled your favorite space MUD with a soundpack. Hell if the game got put somewhere I'd wager that the sounds would, with the wrong sort of people, find themselves used in MU* soundpacks without any sort of credit or proper process if people were underhanded enough.

Hell even when DMPA/DMNB/DM...whatever was a thing, there were certain people clamoring for DM V1 to come back. I never played DM v1, but I don't really sit around moping for audiogames to come back when tech and game design moves on. DMPA/DMNB/Dm....whatever isn't really a special online game at all. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe* the story was ever fully finished for DMPA?

* I may be getting that mixed up with DMPA and another game in the series

If memory serves, it was actually called Fortunes Fronteer.

@81: You're right. I just didn't remember correctly.

@82: No, it never got released.

thinking back, dmnb really was amazingly idle, at least where the industry activities were concerned. But I think one of the main reasons people kept playing it was the atmosphere. Ships and such sounded great, the environmental effects were nicely done when you consider what Danny and others had available, and hell, if the sounds of hollowing out your own planet from the inside out aren't satisfying, I don't know what is. Also, if I remember correctly, the community was pretty chill too, besides the drama parts. Most people talk about the dm series like it only brought drama with it. I distinctly remember having, horrors! honest, actual fun on there.

@85, I agree, the game was indeed quite fun.

I'd love to see someone take what made the Death Match series great, The interesting universe, the stellar sound design, and everything else that was great about the games and make it  your own. Build your own setting, storyline, and most important, build your own game. Stop relying on 7 year old code that never really worked right in the first place.
As a wise monkey once said, you can either run from the past, or learn from it, or in this case you can embrace the past and run from the future, or learn from the past and build a better game, learning from the mistakes made with the death match series.

Ethin, Are you sure that you addressed the right post? I don't see what you say relate to my post , which is post 88. Anyhow, I'm willing to explain any point in my post that caused the obvious confusion. I know I didn't ask them to go and make a new game similar to DMNB, nor did I say it's difficult to develop a game like that, neither did I provide any reasons as for why they don't make a similar game to DMNB. And my post was mainly directed to people who were tempted to run a server, except for the first of it which was directed to post 74 which commented out something that I see a lot in this community and drives me mad anytime I see it pop up.

No worries. It happens.

just let this thing stay gon, trust me, if their was a delete toppic button, this toppic would be gon by now, as I am not intrested in space games in genral any more

ok, to any staf members who read this topic, I my self realised that this game was not wirth hosting a server of about last year, I did not post after that cause I wanted the topic forgotten, but I see that is not the case any more, so I want this topic closed