Topic by secret_land 2020-03-23 13:43:27 (edited by secret_land 2020-03-23 13:44:31)

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Hello. I just wondering how to add twitter authorizing on BGT. I don't want to try tw way. I want do that like undead-assault. How to type authorizing  this twitter URL?

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Reply by gerech 2020-03-23 14:37:01

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@1, this may not be possible with BGT. This is possible with python, though.

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Reply by manamon_player 2020-03-23 14:57:03

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what about the twt

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Reply by Patrick 2020-03-23 15:21:34

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The Twitter API totally fucked up TWT. Tried a while ago. Just gives an error.

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Reply by secret_land 2020-03-23 15:34:07 (edited by secret_land 2020-03-23 15:37:20)

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Actually it is possible with BGT, I just don't know how to specify my application name in the URL https://api.twitter.com/oauth/ Easy to do, I should do things like void tweet and copy twitter suport bgt, that's all

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Reply by camlorn 2020-03-23 15:49:11

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The Oauth flow has more than just copying a key into a URL.  You have to get a token from the user by one method or another.  Also you will need JSON parsing and serialization to do much with it.

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Reply by visualstudio 2020-03-23 17:19:52

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the short answer: you can't because it requires json parsing which bgt doesn't provide (though there are ways around like calling the api with another language like php and returning the result as something else and parse it with bgt, but it requires a web hosting or so which i don't recommend (have experience with writing a translation api which used json))
long answer: undead assault uses twython (I think) which is a wrapper around twitters api.
also,,, python has support for parsing of json even in it's standard library so, no other languages like php.

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Reply by manamon_player 2020-03-23 18:14:42

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is it possible with bgt to authorize account at all?

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Reply by Lucas1 2020-03-23 21:11:26

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This is impossible for several reasons. I'm not sure if Twitter enforces HTTPS, but if it does that's something else to add to the list. BGT cannot handle hTTPS. This is why people would use TWT for this kind of thing.

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@9
Wait, what. Really?

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Unless I'm remembering wrong, that's the only reason why Dropbox auto-updaters weren't a thing. Dropbox would force HTTPS, so whenever someone would try to download a file from Dropbox it would do something weird. I seem to remember it hard crashing with a not responding message but that could've been for some other reason.

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Reply by Ethin 2020-03-23 22:25:45

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@10, yeah. BGT has no secure networking capabilities at all. The security functions would be good if the bytecode method it used wasn't so weird, but since their not its not overly difficult to break it. To make it really hard to break you have to do some weird stuff in your code.

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Reply by philip_bennefall 2020-03-23 23:39:50

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I just stumbled upon this topic and I wanted to clear things up. BGT did not have https support. Back when I implemented it, I wanted a quick solution for basic tasks like checking for updates and similar features. I did not want to ship OpenSSL because of the licensing ramifications, and I did not know about the Wininet C interface at the time or I would definitely have used it. But back then, about 9 or 10 years ago, the amount of insecure traffic was unfortunately still quite high. Nowadays many websites will not even operate over an insecure connection, and rightly so. Needless to say, were I to do it over again, ssl would be at the top of the list.

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Reply by manamon_player 2020-03-24 07:59:04

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at13
please continue bgt, this is what you do for five years, please continue it, you want to make other programming language or what? or you can open source it
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14, no. He will not.

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Reply by marko 2020-03-24 09:18:29

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Also does uppit have http?

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Reply by secret_land 2020-03-24 11:14:30

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okay, if we use TWT ...

The underlying connection was closed.
 I get an error.
The problem is that I don't know where to find config on twt. Maybe I should do it on my own account, I'm not sure. Also where can I find TWT?

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Reply by philip_bennefall 2020-03-24 12:37:08

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@14:
In order to avoid going off topic, I'll be brief. I have no desire to revive BGT, nor to invent a programming language. This decision was taken a long time ago, and it will not change. I'm sorry. As I have said many times in other topics, there are a lot of options out there and I strongly advise you to explore them.

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Reply by ivan_soto 2020-03-24 12:42:07

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I agree with post 18,
but I do have the question as to why open sourcing BGT is out of the question? It's your code, so we get that if you just don't feel like open sourcing BGT, cool man. I would understand 100 percent, but it's just more of a general question, ya know?

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Reply by philip_bennefall 2020-03-24 12:52:12

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@19:

I decided not to open source BGT because the code is old, and definitely not an example of good coding style as I was learning C++ when I began writing it in 2008 or so. Therefore it does not serve well as a learning tool, and there are better ways of creating this kind of infrastructure. So I feel that I would be doing the community a disservice by having BGT floating around in the form in which I left it. Also, I do not want to have my name attached to a codebase that I don't intend to maintain or support in any way. BGT worked well for the types of games for which it was designed, but I think it is time to move on.

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Reply by manamon_player 2020-03-24 13:03:27

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anyways
twt always have error for me, can't open it. Needs xml file

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@19:

I decided not to open source BGT because the code is old, and definitely not an example of good coding style as I was learning C++ when I began writing it in 2008 or so. Therefore it does not serve well as a learning tool, and there are better ways of creating this kind of infrastructure. So I feel that I would be doing the community a disservice by having BGT floating around in the form in which I left it. Also, I do not want to have my name attached to a codebase that I don't intend to maintain or support in any way. BGT worked well for the types of games for which it was designed, but I think it is time to move on.

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I think everyone has a right to still use bgt, as it is good for beginners. I’m not gonna learn other languages just yet.

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Reply by Ethin 2020-03-24 15:12:57

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@22, I disagree, but I'm not going to start a language flame war here.

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I'm not going to start a language flamewar either.  But I think it's really, really important to point out that you shouldn't write an autoupdater without SSL.  This is a terrible idea, and I can think of at least one trivial non-BGT-specific way to get a virus on your computer via it at a coffeeshop or whatever.  It's as trivial as looking for downloads of things that look like programs and intercepting the request.

I don't know how likely that is in practice, but given that it's easier to do than most viruses...well.  That's not okay.  That makes me have to consider securing my computer when playing games in BGT with autoupdating functionality now.

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Reply by Ethin 2020-03-24 16:41:11

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@24, subverting that wouldn't be hard -- encrypt the update package -- but again, BGT's cryptography is good, but the way it does its bytecode and such makes it easy to break in a few hours.

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