2019-06-20 21:17:06 (edited by electro 2019-06-20 21:21:56)

Ahoy,
After I start, remember that I'm now in university and so have a lot of homeworks that unfortunately will have to be with the book opened. And sorry for my bad orthography that for me was the first tyme to write english long sentences, so here I come.
So, here's the story:
It was the year 2011. I had 10 or 11 years old, I don't remember. In the country where I live, there's a tv program called "Héroes por Panamá" (Lit. Heros for Panama). I've entered as a guest, if I remembered correctly. The program is showed in november of each year.
Before that program, many things happened: I've played for the first tyme with an international panamanian artist, who's name I don't remember, neither I will try to menction here.
As a gift, an electric guitar for me was the result.
When the show was ending, as a surprice I've won 8000 dollars. Whith those dollars I've mannaged to purchase a talking scanner (my mother and family call it simpely as "reader"), but in technical terms its a "Scanning and Reading Solution". the first of the that they gifted to me was "SARA" "Scanning and Reading Appliance", developed by Freedom Scientific, the same company that developes Jaws, Fusion, MaJic, and an other, and recentely new, scanning and reading sollution that I will be mentioning later. . I've used it to scann books, eaven the bible. I liked it.
Sudently the menction "reader" at the passing of that years suffered problems. The first of them was a (kind of) motherbord not working.
The scanner was producing firstely the tartup tone sequence, but then indefenitly was playing the signal indicating waiting process.
But I've tryied to find a solution. years later: press f1 when the external keyboard is connected into the reader and it starts normally.
But as of now, an other problem occurs that for me is kinda impossible to resolve, neighter using an external keyboard, but anyways, that scanner is 9 or so years old ' maybe worth it selling it to earn 5000 dollars to get a scanner replacement, such as an other scanning and reading solution, hardware or software.
But getting back before that scanner was kind a inussable (in october 2018) I was in a conference that the blind panamanian people organice 1? or 2? years. On the 2nd and or 3rd day of the conference, when we were browsing products for blind people, I was amused that there's an other scanning solution: Optelec Clear reader (I don't know if I spelled correctly the name) (Didn't sound that name familiar?)
Well, after discovering that reader for a while, a new Competitor? was announced at the beginning of this actual year: Freedom Scientific Omni Reader. Like the clear reader, it's recharjable and also has magnification. I will not menction the software ones as I know that some people know those apps: KNFB Reader, Envision, ETC.it.
But since I want to replace that 9 year old scanner, I shall ask but later on. I just need, people, if you have tyme (I don't since I will go back to university for some english language oral exam), to compare those 2 reading solutions that are my definitive replacement.
So here.s the question, Which scanning and reading solution will I choose? Clear Reader or Omni Reader?
I will wait for you're responce.

73 Wj3u

2019-06-20 22:18:18

Well to be honest it depends what stage you are at and what funding you can afford.
So if you are at university, having used a coppy of k100 I was able to get from extra legal means thats one of the best you can get using both abbyy and nuance engines.
Its not cheap and when I switched to my own device I quit my ill gotten software since I couldn't afford it.
If you have allready gotten an fs product, openbook is probably your next best choice to use with that product or k1000 I can vouch for at least k1000.
Later in life, depending on funds will depend on what you choose.
For 300-600 us you can pick up various additions of omnipage from standard to ultimate I am not sure how well they work or not.
I went for the abbyy fine reader standard as I got it on a special deal, price has gone up to 300 australian.
For what it is its quite good.
However just after I got that, my need to scan has dropped a lot.
I have aquired a basic multifunction brother laser printer with network scanning.
I have aquired during convention knfb reader which I use, I still have abbyy fine reader here, and windows has a scan app.
However and this is a big but, with so much as electronic, the only time I print anything for myself to use well I generally don't need to even print anything.
I do have access to as well as my brother laser, a fully functional hp envy small home printer via eprint on a remote network which I print various things for people.
Most electronics go through qute pdf on my end for printing.
I havn't had to deal with much paper in the last 10-15 years and its only going to get less as the years role on.
I suspect that within another generation, unless we are all nuked or something, a printer will be something we would use but not all day like now.
I certainly don't need the printer for 99.999% of my life's tasks certainly not for every day tasks, much less scanning.
I do use ocr for a few documents but my job as a tester means I don't need to be concerned with pdfs, office documents except the occasional word document, and or web page.
As for books, if you have a transcription service where you are though you may have to get things in advance, it should be easy enough to get books converted to braille or even electronic which is what I had done here in new zealand.
The only time I used a scanner were courses with multiple worksheets in printed form.
Most things were all electronic slides which I could save or which I got allready converted for me.

2019-06-21 05:15:21 (edited by defender 2019-06-21 05:17:40)

My friend uses the ABBYY fine reader software paired with an off the shelf slim portable flatbed scanner that he can put in his backpack, and as it's mainstream rather than access tech, it's a much cheaper option.  He seems to find it very usable with a screen reader despite this though...
You could also buy voice dream scanner for 8.5 USD along with a good phone stand or boom arm with holder and use an Iphone, which as long as it's a new enough device to where it has a good camera, could be perfectly adequate for what you need.
If you don't already have a modern Iphone though, than the first option I mentioned would be allot cheaper.
The Iphone also has a built in magnifier, which is even better on an Ipad, but not to the same level I'm sure as a dedicated product.

2019-06-21 11:53:28

Well, Thanks for the software recomendations, however I still shall stick to the hardware solutions anyway. For Open book, I often use it. As for the hardware scanning talking devices like the Clear Reader and the New Omni reader, if we can compare then I know where to get it.

73 Wj3u

2019-06-21 13:12:42

Hi,
Firstly, most of the solutions created and brought by companies that specialise in the production of accessible apps, software, hardware, or all together in a single product, are super expensive for what they do. Now, let's compare Kurzweil 1000 and a combination of products which would make up for all the features that K1000 has. Kurzweil 1000 costs 995 dollars by the way.
So, you can use Kurzweil 1000 to scan or convert and read documents, look up terms/concepts in the dictionary/thesaurous, find online encyclopedias, read different book formats such as epub, create documents and take notes, convert files from one format to another.
In order to replace Kurzweil 1000, I would need ABBYY Fine reader (preferably pro 14) which would cost 299 dollars and would cover everything related to scanning and conversion. Then, I would buy Q-Read for 30 dollars in order to cover the reading of all E-Books. I would also need the Office package for the rest of the features that Kurzweil 1000 has, and I would get sufficiently more features in the end. Let's give it 200 dollars for the moment. Also, in order to use the dictionary, based on my needs I could spend up to 50 dollars on Word Web Pro. The overall amount would be around 600 dollars, and not only do I save 400, but I also get significantly more features and versatility than I would get by buying Kurzweil 1000. That's what I'm doing now, and it just works. I even get overall better results with the combination I use as compared to K1000.
I sincerely can't find a way to justify the price of some of the products that are designed for the blind or visually impaired. It doesn't make sense at all. I understand that they're small companies and that they need to hire staff and invest money which most of the time hurts as they don't have the capital that big companies have, but I cannot accept their advertising practices as they say meet the state-of-the-art technology when in fact what they do is compile a set of features from a group of applications or products and build a new product which costs as much as all products that they've got features from, altogether.

2019-06-21 18:06:32

You could probably use Adobe Digital Editions instead of QReed, and go for the office 365 personal monthly subscription for like 8 bucks a month as well.

2019-06-25 17:10:33

Wow thanks for the software alternatives again.
Just if you didn't know,
https://www.freedomscientific.com/produ … mnireader/
The same company that develops Open Book, the one that you've recommended me, however I don't have a scanner nor a camera so I will go with hardware stuff. Yeah, it costs 2000 (my previous fs product costed 5000) but I'm just halusinating or something similar.

73 Wj3u