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As I think I stated in an earlier topic, I think that no matter how long humanity survives, there will always be things that we don't know, and may never know for certain.
Some people think we go on to another place when we die, others think we simply cease to exist. I don't know. I hope for something more after death, whatever it may be, but there's no proof one way or the other.
I'm a live and let live kind of guy. As long as other people aren't trying to shove their religion/beliefs down my throat, I'm fine with them. I wouldn't mind talking about god/religion/spirituality with someone. I try to respect the beliefs of others as much as I can.

at mayana, the god was not made. the being humans call god is the master being behind all realities. the master being was not created. like electricity. did the electricity in your house exist before you moved into it? probably did. intelligent beings called humans figured out how to do that. eventually as you climb so to speak the latter of beings with intelligence, you get to the top, which is a being who is the master intelligence, master mover of all matter, who always existed. and that master intelligence who can also reason and who is also person(s), distinct within it or himself... really really likes making stuff. some stuff is made of matter, some is not. some are beings of pure consciousness... some is light, some is not, stuff that is intelligent, stuff that is not, and interacting with that various stuffs, both proactively and permitting certain things to happpen to that stuff based on universal laws of physics, advanced programming of moralities that is in-built, into all intelligent beings that can reason, math, science, and other stuff we have not yet discovered.

a quick note regarding why i think some people are disabled based on my own experiences. first, my son is sighted, he is not disabled at all, not blind, not deaf, and so on. but because i am blind, and his mom is blind, he has opportunities to love us in ways he could not if we were sighted. he has to give more of his time for us, his talents for us for guiding us around sometimes, reading stuff and so on. this 3d space is like a testing ground. God or the master being says, if i permit this or that or the other thing to happen to you, in your life in this 3d space, will you still help others out when possible? and at all times due to us having free will we can say yes, no, not yet, maybe tomorrow. we can say no for 60 years and change our mind at the last moment and say yes just before we die. or we can go around hating and killing and torturing stuff hating even life itself and choose to not live in greater than 10d space and due to our selfishness maybe live in 1d reality possibly alone forever or so engrossed in our own selves we don't care. also we are in 3d space, the folks in the place some people may call heaven, the 5 or 10d or more space, is separated from us temporarily at least by some kind of transdimensional reality barrier set up by the master being for our own Good. I think if we could with our 3d senses perceive or try to perceive that extra dimensional space even for a few moments it would overwhelm us. we would not and could not understand it, it may even damage the very 3d reality we exist in due to its 5d or 10d or greater nature... so for our own good again, a dimensional barrier has been temporarily set up by the master intelligent being who is somehow being itself, master intelligence, person(s) with ability to reason for the good of all existances.

That sounds scarily like the Boundary in BlazBlue.

I was raised as a Christian, and while I definitely believe in a higher power of some sort, there are a lot of reasons why I wish I could let that belief go. As a side note, before I go any further, I've always been envious of atheists, because they usually come across as being a lot more well-versed on all angles and types of religions than many religious folks, who prefer to only comprehend the bits of their chosen religion which make it look favorable, even though they still have a wonderful way of striking terror into the hearts of all who don't see things exactly as they do. now, this isn't all religious people, mind you, but there are enough of them that this is a real concern.

There are a lot of things about the Christian faith which don't sit well with me. First, there are denominations. Why are there so many? Even if we exclude the bitterness between Catholics and Protestants, which apparently is still a real thing, why should we nitpick over whether someone is Methodist, Lutheran, or whatever else? We're all reading the same Bible, or are we? How do you even know which Bible you should read, given all the translations there are now? Surely one of them has to be the true word of God, but there has never been any consensus on that. More to the point, what is the point of squabbling over minor differences between denominations when supposedly churches are open places where all are welcome? What is that supposed to accomplish, and who holds the trump card that grants them eternal life if all others are going to hell? It's a numbers game, and a rigged one at that.

next, as others have said, there's the fact that children are often frightened into believing things that are well beyond their comprehension. I won't go into detail about this on a public forum, but I bear some serious emotional scars from things that were done to me as a kid in regards to religion and demon possession. Even without that, I think I'd still have grown up to be uncomfortable with the idea of baptizing babies specifically. If one is complicit in their sin, how can they choose the path their life will follow if they can't even remember being saved? If someone wants to get baptized at any point where they can consent and understand what the process means, then more power to them, but I think it's very wrong to basically doom an innocent infant who can't even think for themselves yet.

In that same vein, here's a scenario I've been turning over in my mind for quite some time, and I can't find a satisfactory answer for it. I've asked a friend of mine what she thought, but I left that conversation feeling even more distraught than when I went in, which I'll explain after I've finished laying out the scenario.

Suppose a kid goes into a store and decides to steal a candy bar. Not out of any malicious intent, he simply lacked impulse control, saw something he was hungry for, and took it. Walking home, maybe feeling a bit smug, munching on his prize, he encounters a predator who kidnaps him and does unspeakable things to him which eventually leads to the death of the child. In a twist of fate, or karma, the predator also gets killed days later, let's say he gets hit by a car. Now, according to Christianity, both are going to be tortured eternally. Both stealing and murder are breaking the ten commandments, and even so, sin is sin or so I've been told. No sin is greater than another, it's all viewed the same in God's eyes. But let's pull back a second. Not only are we talking about someone who molested a child, which is one of the filthiest things a human can do, what if that child had a bad home life, and wasn't necessarily taught that stealing was wrong, or he was legitimately hungry? Even if the child doesn't have a sob story, he's still just a kid, and I can almost guarantee that we've all stolen some tiny trinket or other from a store at some point in our lives, or at least imagined it. And yet, all sin is created equal, and all sinners will be punished equally. Just thinking about it is making me nauseous.

As for the conversation I had with my friend, she basically confirmed that in that situation, they would both go to hell, although she seemed to believe that if the child was taught that stealing was wrong and chose to do it anyway, his punishment would be just, while if he was raised in a faithless or otherwise bad home and/or community and didn't know better, he would be given a chance. Since this runs so painfully counter to anything the Bible teaches, I can only assume she wanted me to forget about the subject and sweep it under the rug. Up until that point, it had been an idle, though disturbing thought. With that dismissal, it became something I couldn't stop thinking about, like an awful song that plays on a loop in your head and won't go away no matter how hard you try to banish it.

So, after all of this ranting, you'd think I would be an atheist, right? Wrong. You see, I do believe in a higher power, even if it isn't the Christian God. And whatever that power is has the ability to create and destroy lives, and entire galaxies. That's scary as hell to me, pardon the pun. Many things can be explained by science, but not all, least of all our essences, our souls, if you will. Lots of personality traits are developed as we learn, grow, and gain life experience, but our general temperament is something we're born with, as well as certain quirks or oddities we may have. If that doesn't come from a higher power, then I don't know what does. I don't necessarily believe we're made in the image of said power, because that opens a whole other confusing can of worms, but we absolutely get our base traits from somewhere, and that can't all be explained by genetics. Science can't even come to a conclusion about what causes mental illness, because it's usually a shit-filled cocktail of components that are out of our control. So how can I not think that something out there is pulling the strings? As I said before, atheists are actually very lucky, because they don't have to wrestle with such questions, although I suppose some did in order to get to the point where they're comfortable in their nonbelief. If I could get to a point where my belief wasn't about 95% based on fear, I'd probably be a better person, but as it stands, the fact that no one can ever truly know what happens after we die, or what is out there, will always keep me in that comfort zone at least somewhat, because the idea of picking the wrong thing is even worse than the thought of possibly having been misinformed all along.

As a person who has passed through a few of the many popular religions, and has been an agnostic for a bit too, I can say that all religions are peaceful and are teaching peace. It's not the religion, it's the people who represent it that are the problem.
I, as well am a Muslim and I'm an open-minded person although I'm religious. I know, these things might not work together but for me they work perfectly. <3
Peace onto you all.

I'm a relatively happy agnostic/atheist, depending on the day.
I won't rule out the possibility of some sort of higher power. There are a lot of mind-blowing things to think about which science can't explain, and may never be able to. But one thing I am convinced of, heart and soul: none of the currently existing religions have got it right. Not even close. With the possible exception of Buddhism, and that's more a philosophy than a religion anyway in most ways.
I can't buy into any of the doctrines that most major religions preach. I'm heartily sick of the "my god's better than your god" stuff I see on a daily basis. I don't like it when people use religion as a wedge, a weapon, a tool of fear or a means of exclusive moral guidance. There are good lessons in the canonical bodies of all religions - even things like spiritual Satanism - but as so often happens when a group in power has means by which to judge others, it all falls apart. There's just not nearly enough evidence for me to believe that the Christian God, or Allah, or the Hindu pantheon are real, in any sense that adherents would believe in.
That said, I am relatively gentle in my atheism. I can debate fiercely, but I won't do so unless I feel someone else is seeking such a thing, or trying to inflict by force upon others what should be shown to them voluntarily and with much more care. Put another way: talk to me, don't push it down my throat, and I'll grant you the same out of respect.
I say that I'm sometimes agnostic, however, because if there is some sort of higher power, and it makes itself known somehow, I will not turn away from it. I may not go running toward it, but I'm open-minded. The first step in learning is to admit that there is always more to know. The second is to admit that what you know might not be true. I'm down with both of those concepts.