this is, a perfect example of what happens when you take the moderation away from anywhere. Especially the *hint hint, your reasons are really tiny, hehe* part... what is that even supposed to mean, it sounds burlesque, reads taunting, and poses even inferior. No other way to put it. I mean I could care less what these reasons are, but doing that and especially outside of a forum just goes to show how out of control things are. I would probably just say chill out, orko, forget about this site and just be at rest with yourself, because there is no need for more toxicity, its really unfortunate that a site like this has turned in this way, but just about anything can happen on the internet without severe consequences for it, and this is exactly why I decide to just come here and participate from time to time, ignore the words of people (pretty much all of the users in here) who do not even have the slightest idea of what I do outside of this forum to happily earn a living or pass time  (in other words in real life) and just go on, no one will be able to take that away from me, not even with a single forum post or comment--I know who my folks are out there, I have never linked my profile with social accounts here (and after reading and seeing all of this I would never even think for a split second of doing it) so I am good, even if something similar would have happened to me here, I could care less, so I invite you to take and adopt that position for the time being, and really hope something gets done about the entire global scale of what has been going on. In other regular, successful communities moderators would be thought of as the people you looked up to, usually would be picked because of their exemplary qualities as people, but certainly this site is the boldest and clearest exception to that.

It's honestly sad to me that some of us have degenerated to the point where we can no longer take a simple joke. Come on man, Aprone was NOT! moderating when he sent that. Does this mean that because he moderates a forum, he needs to constantly show a moderation image even if he's mot moderating? If I work for an advertising business, does that mean I'm required to continue to advertise when I'm not officially working? If I work as a telephone operator and must be professional, does that mean I am obligated to show the same level of professionalism when I'm at home with friends, or even making a public non work related speech? If the answer to those questions is no in your opinion, then why does Aprone have to continue being professional when he is not officially moderating the forum? If they are yes... I mean this in the kindest way but IMHO you have a few views on the world that would be considered by most to be slightly broken.

The remark happened on the BSG Blog yes. There is not a list of comment rules. Everything I am involved with follows the common sense rule. Don't be racist or something similar, and Offense is taken not given. This is simply so someone can call me or other contributors all the dirty names they want and tell us how terrible our posts are, all feedback is welcome. I am against limiting language just for that reason. I'm just posting this in case someone was wondering.

Wait. So you're going to complain about what someone did outside of the forum? Okay then. Hey. I make fart sounds and make poopy jokes. Oh no. I should stop selling games.

I can't help but chuckle at this. Like I said over there, Mr. Orko...

Again, like I said, your comments on that blog post show people your true colors, and exactly how much of a hypocritical bastard you are. And yes, I meant that to be how it sounded -- I'm getting fed up with your "oh, I'm blind, I'm entitled to everyone and can wine and complain about every possible thing and people will pamper to my every whim" attitude.

Mommy. Little Johnny called me names on www.InsecureAboutMyGenetalia.com. I know this is www.Where'sTheCheese.com, but can we please stop him from getting the best cut of cheese because he hurt my feelings on that other site?

Kai

I really don't understand what's going on in this topic. references I don't understand I guess. but there's a hole other one going on with people doing the exact thing. I didn't get what I want, somebody said something bad, linch them. I think everybody here needs to grow up and quit it. this is a remarkable forum and rite now it is being totally ruined by this kind of behaviour.

and I guess I'm about to come in to a bunch of abuse for telling you all what you already know but don't want to hear. have at it and see if I care. stuff I've seen last few days on here is beyond contempt.

oh I'm not having a go at orko here, it's people's responses to it. it's like a shark tank round here lately. there's blood in the water and there's a feeding frenzy. go after who ever you can. I hate it.

Totally agreed SirBadger. like I tried to say in post 16 I am not in this for the feeding frenzy. I try my best to attack ideas and overall concepts, not people. I try to sympathize, not judge. I try to pull back with a level head, not get myself overwhelmed in drama that I can't cope with. I just want an end to this. I said all I felt I needed to say in the BSG blog topic. Now that I've vented my frustrations and ideas out there, I am laying back and watching. I'm saddened and amused at how wild the situation is getting. Truthfully, though, I think the situation is far too complex to solve peacefully. I've felt that way for a long time, but especially right now, what on earth are we going to do to clean this mess? No matter what, there will be scars and unpleasant emotions and the like. I really feel it didn't have to come to this. But it has. Oh well. Not much to be done I suppose. It's not like I had anything to do with any of it, I'm only watching it unfold and providing my own commentary from the peanut gallery or some such.

Responses to Orko, Sam, and Sir Badger.

@Orko
I didn't find this disturbing in the slightest, and I don't think most of us did. Maybe you should reconsider your response to the situation.
But I wouldn't throw stones in a glass house, if you know you can't take it, than you just shouldn't have commented in the first place. People like you get eaten alive in places like BSG, and what Aprone said was child's play compared to what you could have gotten. I'm truly sorry for the sexual abuse you endured, and I find comments like Xoren's to be pretty distasteful (remember people, comedy is tragedy plus time and childhood sexual abuse is still a huge issue even in the developed world) but if you really think about it logically, Aprone had no idea that you went through that, and comments like the lockerroom one are pretty low on the scale of offensive things for most people who haven't had a specific incident, and could just as easily be encountered offline in a totally benign setting.

@sir badger
Yeah I don't like it either, but unless you've also got solutions, than telling people off for telling people off is just adding to what you don't want to see, even if you aren't being a spaz about it like Ethin is for instance.
Basically your acting like the proverbial older lady going (tut tut, such language!) and it solves nothing.
I do sympathize though, some people do certainly seem to be in this just for the chaos, landing low blows left and right and bringing up old baggage while they think they can get away with it, and not just Ethin either.
Honestly I'd just not comment and wait for things to blow over, report a post if you think it's bad enough, ETC, that's mostly what I'm doing.

@Sam
The discussion was about the ag.net forum mods, and an ag.net forum mod answered it, it doesn't matter if that happened in a PM, on another site, or over two tin cans and a string, it still applies, and Orko isn't necessarily  wrong for bringing it up here, on the ag.net forum.
Aprone was unprofessional sure, but it was outside his actual direct mod duties, and Orko isn't exactly a shining beacon of good behavior either, no matter how justified he thinks he is, plus the comment was really not that bad by most people's measure, so that's why it shouldn't have been posted.
Many public facing jobs will in fact fire you for making them look bad outside of work as well, so this doesn't apply very well.
Aprone barely ever steps in, so it's hard to say if he has a good track record, he does act pretty immature about it, but if Orko is the only one complaining, and he started it, than I wouldn't put much stake behind it, but since it does involve ag.net and moderation, it kinda crosses over that barrier IMO.
I see this as being different from say, if Aprone called me a raging assclown on Skype in some random conversation we were having about the price of aluminum in India, since that doesn't concern ag.net or his moderation at all.

holy  shit man i thought he was 15, 20. didn't expect a 60 year old guy to spam a forum! wow!