I agree with with what you say, at least that part. But then again your blog post and the way its written isn't exactly subjective and comes at an awfully convinent time, no?
No...as I have said here over and over, and as I say in the blog post over and over it has my opinions. It is not 100% objective, it is subjective. I don't know why this is being brought up over and over when it is said multiple times in multiple places now. It is quite easy to see where my opinion slips and where there is no opinion, or when I place the opinion of a moderator which I talked to.
Also as for you saying it comes at a very convenient time, again you are making quite large jumps of faith to say something which is false. I had no idea dark was currently gone, and it had no effect on my posting. I originally planned on posting on Tuesday or Wednesday of this week, that was simply how long I thought it would take me to finish the post. After finishing everything sooner including feedback from prerelease readers I decided to post it on Monday. You seem to be making these huge jumps from one thing to another, again all in the attempt to discredit mee as the author. This is your decision but it is quite obvious for everyone reading this thread.
I beg to differ when it comes to the no politics involved, bah.
It would be rather hard to be involved with politics of a place if one does not take part in the politics of that place let alone if one is not an active member of that place and its community. This makes it very difficult for me to understand how I am playing politics when by my own conscious decision I am not a part of the ag.net community. Might I also add that is a past decision I made based on the community, not on the moderation of the forums. As far as I can remember, and without going back and searching I have never had a personal encounter either directly or indirectly with the moderation here.
For example, the outcry against Ironcross's ban by a certain section of the forums. It was truely hard for me to understand, how people'd call that ban unfare, when multiple wornings were issued, oh and the posts and topics you talk of, they are right there for people to see how offencive and insulting that guy was being to people, deserved or not.
May I remind you that even dark said Ironcross was not banned for what he said in that topic, it was not until after the ban was in place that Dark said Ironcross was banned for what he said. I am not defending or sticking up for Ironcross, I thought I made that very clear. The issue was someone no matter who being banned for something they did not say, which was the reason given by dark. IF you think me and Ironcross are friends or something then you are very mistaken, I would estimate that 95% of our past interactions have been blog related, meaning to do with his posts on the BSG Blog. I believe I have talked him via voice exactly once, and that was in a group setting on Team Talk. It does not matter who this happened to, it is the fact that it happened.
My Comment as regards people having their own thoughts, being able to actually! read what's written that is understand the meaning that particular post sentence or paragraph is saying is directly related to the groupism politics and powerplay sentence I wrote, specificly the groupism or sheepism (That is a slightly harsh term I use, but apologies if it offends)
Okay, so now I am getting very curious about what this means because for the life of me I can not figure the logic behind this. What is this power play people have mentioned? I'm not seeing anyone here trying to gain power, to take someone else's position away from them, nothing like that at all. Can someone explain this? The veiled suggestion that it this is my motivation for writing the blog post is unfounded and unsupported by anything I have said. I have not said here that Dark should step down, that a user should replace him, that a moderator should replace him, or any variation of the above. I have put my feelings and thoughts on his actions into my blog post, however as I said I am one person and that is all. Anyone can be upset, or anyone can not care, one person's feelings hold no more weight than another's. However if you feel because I have an opinion on the matter that everything I wrote is now in question then I have nothing else to add to this specific disagreement. You and others are more than welcome to feel that way no matter how much I disagree with the stretching of logic it took to get to that conclusion.
As to your bias or lack there of, and everything else in general, all I have to say is.
1. I know your feelings about the forums, and that of the people you associate with in fact we have had discussions about the views you hold about the forum, Dark and so on. The discussions weren't overly long, as I am not a fan of those but they were direct enough. so at least you aren't exactly neutral and not the right person (unbiased) to be researching anything or linking anything in a neutral unbiased manner.
I believe you and me have had interactions in the past, mainly only through Core-Exiles. I also have no doubt I have talked about how much I dislike the forums, but as stated above, that has always been because of the community. If you reread the first paragraph of the blog post, you'll see this is a two part series. The second part will be talking about the community, meaning the users who make up the forums, not the moderators. This has been in my ideas folder for every blog contributor to see for nearly a year now, this wasn't anything new born out of anger or spite towards one person.
As for us talking about Dark specifically, if we did I don't remember it, however I'm not saying we didn't. Since I had no bad opinions of Dark at the time that doesn't bother me. I did check my skype history for up to a year back, both for just you and for the core-exiles group. Nothing there either, so we must of talked on Discord or via CE Pm which I have no record of sadly.
As for the people I associate with, this isn't anything new or shocking to anyone. There are just a handful of people I talk to on a daily basis. Anyone who has logged into the BSG TT server can see this for them self. The people are
I already put inn the disclaimer section I am friends with JimmyDub, and even with that said I completely agree he should of been banned. The only thing I found of note from that situation was the lifetime banning. I've already stated this in the blog post quite clearly.
2. The forums topics, posts etc quotes can be checked, yes but you could really prove anything and everything if you link pieces in the right way any person who has studied research could tell you that.
draw on the right posts and people, don't draw on a few others and just show the picture / parts of the picture and you could prove anything at all, Say what you will.
It is quite easy for anyone, not just you to realize this, by nature that is exactly how it works and there is nothing against that. I'm getting the feeling you are still of the assumption I went into this to attack dark from the start, again this is not true, and I have stated this over and over in the blog post and I believe on the forums as well. If you don't believe me then that's fine, say so, but saying I have some sort of hidden motivation is just dishonest and false.
It is 100% true the situations I found are things I found of interest. Isn't this clear to everyone? I would not have written a blog post about it if I didn't find them interesting. I am the one who connected the dots based on how I saw them connected, this shouldn't even need to be said as it is so blatantly obvious. I simply wrote the post for others to see what I saw, and to give them the information I got from talking to people involved with the different situations. IF anyone finds this an issue then that's perfectly fine, that is their right. What isn't correct is assuming I did this intentionally from the start because of some unknown motive to me and to everyone else. I am also not saying Dark has never done a good job moderating the forums, but the history of the questionable decisions are the point of the blog post.
Some of my previous post wasn't at smoke-J But other parts were, it was at certain parts of the forum members that have been the cause of all the negativity and ass holishness around here lately.
I hope you can also understand the criteria for someone being an ass hole is different for every person. Using this for a reason for moderator action is not the proper way to go as it allows for everyone to have a different interpretation which then leads to problems which could be completely avoided.
In summary to what @grryfindore said:
I have no personal stake in people deciding the post is good or bad. The only thing I am trying to defend is my motives, how I came to my conclusions, and my intent in writing the blog post. Disagree with the post all you want, this doesn't matter to me at all, but suggesting I did this for personal reasons is a flat lie and an unproven accusation made in attempt to discredit the post as a whole. Disagree all you want, no one really cares about, or at least they shouldn't care about it, the issue comes when the attempt is made to cast aspersions on me and the post due to an assumed motivation which is incorrect. You seem to want to discredit the entire post based on accusing me of incorrectly perceived hidden motives, I see no reason to continue to defend this as anyone else can seperate my opinions from the rest of the post.
I also feel it is necessary to put this here though I never would of imagined it would be needed. If the power play people are hinting at is that I myself want to become a moderator you have lost your ever loving mind. Just the thought of this makes me want to beat my head against the wall until the idea leaves it. My time of attempting or being a part of any sort of moderation or administration is dead and gone. My experiences with this in the past are unpleasant and I have no interest in attempting it again. If I'm being completely honest I am not cut out for moderation of a game or forums. I really don't like most people, and having to pretend as if I do is just too much damn work. Just ask Akilor how that worked out for the both of us...if you didn't know we don't get along at all. Hell ask anyone I have talked to, I think this is very well known.
Yes the comments are what I extrapolated on my own. This is why I added in that the post is not free of my opinions and my thoughts on the different situations. Everyone can read it and make up their own minds, I am not trying to convince anyone otherwise.
Also as for your deleted post, yes there is a paragraph at the bottom of the blog post which tells people about the different ways they can support the blog. This could turn into a much longer explanation of my refusing to put adds on BSG, and how the blog does not make money, but loses it every month but I'm not going to go any farther on that. Also just for your information That paragraph or something similar will be on every post from here on out, not because it has had any effect, but because it is the only reminder to anyone who reads our posts as I have not pushed it in the past.
Though it does hurt my heart in a way I cannot explain, I do agree with some of what you said. If nothing comes out of this a consolidated rules and better warning system would be something everyone could benefit from.
@NicklasMCHD and others who have said the same:
I'm sorry but it simply is not an option to say the names of who I talked to. I strictly said I would not say their names, and I believe this is the only reason they agreed to talk to me. I will point out that any moderators here could have said if I'm lying easy enough as they would have been a part of the moderator discussions and decisions as well. I'm also not saying my information is above reproach as I already issued a correction after learning more after the post was published. This is not the same as the situation in the blog post as again, even those I never talked to can say if I am lying or not. Believe it or not I'm only interested in showing what is true from those I interviewed. If the information is wrong then I have no problem saying so, I am not personally invested in this.
@rashad @aaron and @CAE_Jones
If I'm being personally honest this is really what I expected from this blog post. Some discussion to come forward that is going to make the forums better, no matter what that is.
I am also getting the impression that people believe I hate Dark or have some ill will for him. If this comes from the last section of the blog post, there is a reason I put that under the heading "Personal Thoughts and Conclusion". That is because it was my personal thoughts on everything from the entire blog post. I get that it is hard for some to separate that I have opinions on the examples in the post, while at the same time being able to see the blog post as credible. I can't do anything about that, but my opinions on the examples are just that, my opinions and don't change the fact that everything shown are things that happened. Everyone has their own opinions myself included, even if I was the one to write the blog post.
Before publishing I did have a few people read the post and with every one I asked them if the last section was too harsh or not. If any of them would have said yes then I would have changed it to not come across so intense, but no one told me it was so I left it in how it is. I'm also not saying the rest of the post doesn't have my opinions as it clearly does, but again that does not have anything to do with the post as a whole. I just like anyone else here can decide if they like or dislike someone and state it either here or somewhere else, that however does not detract from what they say.
Overall the attempt for people to discredit the post as a whole based on my opinions and a made up chip on my shoulder is getting very tiresome. I've said all I could possibly say on everything involving this. It would be much more refreshing if in the future you just called me a lier and that you don't trust me personally, and therefore you don't trust anything in the post. I think this would save everyone a lot of time reading, and the hassel of replying.