2020-07-06 23:31:53

@soren:
1. This game might be their priority on the roadmap for the moment, which is fine.
2. Budget perhaps.
3. Unless you're making games from the ground up (which they are not when it comes to series updates) it's best that they focus on one or two at a time anyway. Really that's all there is to it. Rushing them won't make it better for anyone.

2020-07-07 00:50:44

I believe it's because Karen works in Orlando with the team and really spearheaded the enire accessibility movement at EA. Again. I could be wrong, but that is the most likely reason.

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2020-07-07 02:27:32

This is why I want to crack down on people when it comes to behavior that could ruin our relationships with developers.

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2020-07-07 02:34:46 (edited by NevEd 2020-07-07 02:36:54)

A bit disappointing that devs reach out and because of a select few assholes that think people owe them everything, devs get turned away from here.
I'm not even a big madden guy like that. I don't really play newer games mostly. But shit like this is why I don't like to associate with communities that revolve around my disability that much, and if I do, I don't wear it on my sleeve and definitely don't wear it as some badge of honor.
Every group of people that become reasonably close with each other revolving around a common thing has its snobs and general entitled dicks. But speaking for myself and other blind people I feel a bit more disappointment here, maybe its because I am active on the forum? I don't know. What I do know is nobody owes us a damn thing, they're called video games for a reason. We're a minority group. And unfortunately, we are not the archetype of normal, and with that, 99.9% of the world is not designed for us and that's just how it is. I know some people don't like that but if you're gonna go through life saying "How dare you! You ignorant, selfish, horrible piece of shit!" to people just because they don't know everything on how you as a blind person operate or how they can help you, you'll just become another "blindy" stereotype. And that's nobody else's problem but yours.
Me? I don't care about being blind anymore. Whatever. I just want my hearing back.
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2020-07-07 02:44:12

I've yet to hear a demonstration of a blind person playing it. Are there any recordings available?

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2020-07-07 02:50:43

I fully agree with you. I know one blind person, whose name I will not mention, who basically told me, that if I didn't want to get sued, that I would   have to caption my Madden videos.   While I am a full proponent of universal access,  I sat in shock for about 15 minutes, processing that information.  This isn't the only time I've seen developers never associate with the blind community however. While this wasn't a game of any kind, I'm sure people remember Flexy.  Blind people got really bent out of shap, when we were given a specific ap that worked with Voiceover, and it wasn't a permanent solution.  This backlash didn't come from people on this forum, but came from people Like John Mossan, and other big names in our community. The end result? Flexy dropped all of it's  ties tot he blind community. When I wrote to them later on expressing my wish that the product would remain accessible, what I was told was, "Accessibility is no longer our priority." That is what happens when blind people really make developers angry.

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2020-07-07 03:30:55

Yeah it annoys me.
Then you have people in deaf culture, and i'm sure in blind culture as well, that get angry at people that eagerly await technology to enables them to see. Like "how dare you want to make it easier on yourself to live a more normal life?" Its hypocritical and its why I don't really associate with the NFB. Because then one guy's opinions become everyone's opinions.

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2020-07-07 04:31:16

I don't associate with really any blind communities like NFB or ACB because they're all the same, as far as my experience has taught me. I don't really have many blind friends because of exactly what you all guys are saying. Too many negative Nancy types in the blind community. When my grandmother told my mother I should be learning with blind people to be in a blind world, her response was that "he lives in a sighted world and should be with sighted people." My mom and I don't agree on everything, but I at least have to respect her for that.

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2020-07-07 04:44:59

A blind world? That doesn't exist.
Well maybe figuratively it does, if you catch my drift.

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2020-07-07 07:01:38

Unfortunately a blind world does exist, but it is completely divorced from reality.

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2020-07-07 23:47:50

I'm still super excited for the story Mode in Madden, I just hope that they added more accessibility to the  menus there. You know, when that superstar KO mode came out, it was accessible right out of the box, meaning all the menus were. They took the time to code the menus witht he proper options. It's a shame that they just can't go through and code it all. Of course, we probably won't see much, because new consoles, but I'm going to try and get that new xbox series x console.  I'll post a link to the deep dive when it comes out in a few days on the 14th of july in the madden tridition topic so you guys can read it.

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2020-07-08 01:28:17

Liam has my grandmother pegged to a T, rest her soul. Therein lies the retort from my mother to her. As for the original topic, it occurs to me, I hope maybe the draft section is made accessible too, but, as stated, it's wait and see time. I'll definitely check out the deep dive. A little off the topic, didn't somebody post something about MLB The SHow having menu narration? That'd be neat, especially if they port The Show to Xbox 1, which they might do just for '21 since the transition to the next generation is happening late-ish this year.

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2020-07-08 01:31:54

no. it doesn't have narration as of mlb 20. Unless they just added it in the last two weeks. Which I highly highly doubt.

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2020-07-08 03:12:37

Well, I just reached out to Karen via Twitter. If I hear anything, I'll let you guys know

2020-07-08 08:30:00

thanks for the Answers. That makes sense

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2020-07-09 04:50:40

The following is what I heard from Karren on twitter. This is regarding the accessibility features and the Madden codes.
I know many have asked about Madden NFL 21 accessibility. I'm not yet cleared to say anything yet, but I do see you.

Last year's Madden codes came from a stack of EA Play cards - there was no event this year, so there are no code cards either; sorry I have nothing to give out.
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2020-07-09 04:54:45

Makes a ton of sense. this year has been weird as far as how things are working is concerned. No EA, no trade shows.
Here's hoping we hear something about accessibility at some point.

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2020-07-09 05:32:47

This is a great answer - even if the answer is, "Sorry, we don't have anything to give, but we do recognize and acknowledge you." It at least gives us a sense of the current state of accessibility, not to mention establishes that the company is taking the time to make such a statement.

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2020-07-09 05:50:44

@43 Yes

2020-07-10 00:35:40

I agree. We're not forgotten,  and you all have no idea how happy that makes me.

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2020-07-10 00:37:01

I figured we wouldn't be forgotten. I just figured the forum was forgotten. Which again. No surprise.

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2020-07-10 08:40:40

Oh, I have a pretty good idea, since I'm in the same boat. This Madden stuff is the most amazing chance we as blind gamers have had in quite awhile, and I mean that sincerely. Like Liam said, the forum is forgotten, and with good reason, but God bless Karen Stevens for still hanging in there! Wow!

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2020-07-12 00:27:46 (edited by singing butterfly 2020-07-12 00:29:22)

On a quasi-related note...how does one reach out to, say, SIE San Diego about seeing if they're going to port The Show to Xbox One, just as a suggestion. After all, this'll only be a launch year for Series X and PS5. I don't think most people will drop 3, 4, 500 bucks on a console, at least not for just one thing? I myself usually wait until the price comes down and then buy stuff when there's lots to choose from. And since The SHow has been PS exclusive all this time, I would really hope they'd give us earlier generation folks a chance.

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2020-07-12 01:27:05

They ain't gona do that.

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2020-07-12 04:17:36

49:
yes. they are supposed to be doing that next year.
That being said. Unless something major happens, I am not expecting any meaningful accessibility in mlb the show 21. the current game has absolutely nothing. And I even mean as far as visual components like fonts, color blind mde, ETC is concerned. This is no accessibility category anywhere in options.

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