2020-01-21 22:12:18 (edited by wing of eternity 2020-01-25 19:50:01)

Hei malazan fans on the forum i was wondering who is reading malazan book of the fallen and what are your thoughts about it?
And the way you understood the plot

“Oh, wretched ephemeral race … why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon."
The wisdom of Silenus

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2020-01-21 23:26:53

I'd be interested to hear thoughts too. I've not started on that series but over on www.fantasybookreview.co.uk, (the site I'm a staff book reviewer for, it's ranked as one of their most highly recommended fantasy series up with song of ice and fire and wheel of time.
I've considered starting in myself, though there is so much good stuff to read I've not got to it yet, plus I did here the plot, complexity of the world and number of characters got to Robert Jordan levels of insanity, so I'd appreciate hearing what others think, though mark spoilers please.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

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2020-01-22 03:24:47

Robert Jordan levels of insanity doesn't mean much. I have read Wheel of Time five or six times now. I'm not a straight-up expert by any means, but generally I had no trouble keeping the plot and the characters straight. If you like your fantasy lean and mean, Jordan and Ericson won't be good. If you like it sprawling and complicated and messy and layered, both of these authors do a good job at that. Sanderson, too, for that matter.

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2020-01-22 16:01:30 (edited by wing of eternity 2020-01-25 19:52:28)

This book holds a great wait. It has even philosophycal implications but i will try to read it very slowly as others suggested. From it if you look hard enough for it you can find philosophycal questions some times in later books.

“Oh, wretched ephemeral race … why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon."
The wisdom of Silenus

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2020-01-22 19:19:52 (edited by wing of eternity 2020-01-22 19:55:39)

Do we have any game bassed on malazan?
@dark what is your ranc how do you have it? is not in the list

“Oh, wretched ephemeral race … why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon."
The wisdom of Silenus

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2020-01-25 19:23:28

I have read the whole series some years ago. I enjoyed it a lot. Though it took about 1.5 books for me to start really to like the series. In fact the first book was a bit of a struggle for me since I did not finish it when I first started reading it. Partly the reason was the poor quality of the audio book I had but a lot had to do with not really getting the book and understanding what is going on.

I generally also like epic fantasy and my favorite series is the Wheel of Time. I would say compared to it Malazan is much more complicated. Though I have read Wheel of Time multiple times and Malazan just once which of course affects my view. Wheel of Time has one central plot and the same characters all the time. Of course the story has lot of things happening and various side plots and we get more characters and things happening in multiple places as the story progresses. With Malazan the main plot is not so clear I would say and there are more characters, ancient races and differend gods that have their own agenda. In some cases when you start the next book you are suddenly on a completely different continent with new characters. This is not a bad thing but may surprise the reader and as I said I enjoyed the series a lot after the rough start. The term epic fantasy really describes this series well.

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2020-01-25 19:35:14

I have made a poem about malazan check it out.

Still we ride, fight, and die
Wayward path far beyond the pale
We are lost, marching on
Heavy hearts longing for those lands we once called home

Emerald hills, sparking seas
Fade to distant memory
Horizons blaze in foreign land
Ochre seas of scorching sand

The fires of Y’Ghatan burn in the night
The shadows of a fallen god
Chains against light

For weeks on end we journey on
Weary and worn, the glory is gone
All that’s left are tired souls
Aching limbs and dreams of home

The fires of Y’Ghatan burn in the night
The shadows of a fallen god
Chains against light

Marching on as one as the ghosts of brothers sing
Deep in the night where their faces haunt our dreams
Halfway through the veil we are summoned to Hood’s gate
Lands rimed in frost, they will damn us to our fate

Push on through the din of the slaughter
Flight through this perilous land
To where our blades spring forth
Soldiers of Empire Malazan
We fight for the seat of the highborn
Our fates were never our own
Weathered skin is battered and broken
Bloodstained dawn in a land unknown

Stars reign in the sky of the desert
Lost in the blistering sands
A host now long forgotten
Soldiers of Empire Malazan
Far away from the hearths of our fathers
We’re never returning home
Weathered swords are a warrior’s burden
Battles fought but our deeds will go untold

Still we ride, fight, and die
Wayward path far beyond the pale
We are lost, marching on
Heavy hearts longing for those lands we once called home

Dawn has brought its cleansing light
So we behold a mournful sight
The fading sounds of clashing steel
Bodies strewn across the field

The fires of Y’Ghatan burn in the night
The shadows of a fallen god
Chains against light

Buried seeds, scattered bones
Blazing hearts by steel sent home
Mortal screams, names unknown
Shattered dreams by steel sent home

Strap on your shields and raise your banners
Hear the call of raging battle
Beneath a hail of burning arrows
Push ever forward, never surrender
Siege weapons tolling out like thunder
Ripping the city walls asunder
Columns of flame reach ever skyward
Horizons filled with burning pyres

this is it. What do you think.

“Oh, wretched ephemeral race … why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon."
The wisdom of Silenus

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2020-01-25 20:36:59

@malazan book of the fallen impressions, even though I am currently reading the 7'th book, I find it the most enjoyable series I've read so far.
@poem, it mirrors the message of the third book, except it has hidden views about the world sprinkled all over it, maybe your feelings? Could you post some reasons for writing the poem in the first place as well as some feelings that went into that poem?

I love bgt because it shows us what a game engine shouldn't be like.

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2020-01-26 18:36:14

I will be reading the 8th book soon.

I love this series.  It is very complicated and and makes for heavy reading as a result.  I would not really compare it to wheel of time because I don't think the extra characters in wheel of time are quite as impactful on the central plot as they are in Malazan.  That is just my opinion though and I am not quite done with wheel of time either, I still have the last book to read.

I think Malazan is my favourite series, the sheer scope of the thing is huge.  Even though it has fewer books than wheel of time the expansiveness of the lore makes it feel a lot bigger too.  I would recommend this to anyone who loves epic fantasy and is willing to commit.  It is true that it takes a while to get into, but once you're in, you are in deep.

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2020-01-26 19:00:45 (edited by Lindworm 2020-01-26 20:35:32)

@wing of eternity (post 7): That's a song from the band Kaladan Brood…
Edit. here is a link to the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uesL1NEWaCQ

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2020-01-28 16:37:27 (edited by wing of eternity 2020-01-28 16:42:44)

Caladann Brood such a combination doom metal and malazan.
how can some on write introductions to chapters so peoticly it really awkens and let's you an an ancient kingdom?
how can i write like this?
and if you add some old english with epic fantasy better.
Does some on know how to learn this art?
Any ways, if some one wants any of the malazan books just ask and i will post a link to my dropbox.

“Oh, wretched ephemeral race … why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon."
The wisdom of Silenus

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2020-02-02 21:21:02

Moderation:
WingOfEternity, you are in violation of rule 3 by posting a personal dropbox link for the first book of the Book of the Fallen series. You are not authorized to distribute this book, as it's protected by copyright. This is very clear in the rules. I am going to be editing your post to remove the link. Please do not repost it here or attempt to get around this restriction, lest more discipline follow.
Also, claiming that you made that poem when it's clearly written by someone else is called plagiarism. Basically, you're taking credit for something that isn't yours. It's technically not against the rules here, but it's a really great way to trash your reputation. Please don't do it anymore.

Check out my Manamon text walkthrough at the following link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8ls3rc3f4mkb … n.txt?dl=1

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2020-02-12 19:26:28

I've been reading through malazan off and on for about 5 years. I love the scope and bredth of the character building and world building. Another thing i love is the different cultures and tribes in the book. Steven Erikson has a degree in anthropology and the fact that he would use his degree in the creation of a fantasy series is fucking brilliant. for those of you who are not aware there are also malazan books written by Ian C. estelmont think i'm spelling that wrong as well as a prequel of sorts by Erikson called the carcona trilogy of which the first two books forge of darkness and fall of light are available. I've not read these yet but I'm excited to once i get to that point.

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