2018-12-17 19:42:33

bookrage wrote:

I disagree with you guys on this one about not charging us about it even though development has stopped.

Take for example the original Red, Blue, and Yellow Pokémon games this game was inspired by. If you were to find the cartridges today in some store, you would have to pay for them to play them, even though Nintendo has long-since stopped interacting with the Gameboy and the original versions of those games. However, they are complete products even though development on them is no longer a thing nor are they associated with any new products like the Gameboy player for the gamecube or anything like that.

Manamon is no longer undergoing changes, but it is a complete game that a person invested a lot of resources in. Just because it no longer updates doesn't mean it ins't complete. You paid for a complete game and you are still getting one, just one that doesn't have a future in that form. Doesn't keep you from having fun on it though.

So Erin has the right to charge for this game, even though they are no longer updating it. It is just like when a major game company stops making a particular game cartridge, they still can and should charge for it if they so like.

You may be right there, but to that end, the only people making the money off of that game are either a) the original buyer or b) the store owner that you're purchasing it from. One more thing to note - you aren't paying full price for a game that is years old.

And, one more thing. I wouldn't be harping so much here if it wasn't for the fact that this game is digital. I went back and looked at this developer's posts and he has went completely radio silent on this forum, despite the myriad of suggestions given in this topic. A quick patch could fix all of this and make this, if not completely, a fairly unique game from an audiogames perspective. I say fairly because of all of the obvious pokemon references, but still.

I get that folks get busy with real life. But at the same time, you created a game, you charged money for it, and we're still paying $40.00 2 years later to play it, despite absolutely 0 changing in the last year. Frustrating not to hear a thing from a developer, even if it is just development or progress ramblings on things they're working on. It doesn't give me much hope or feeling that I am actually cared about or included.

-wolfy
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2018-12-17 20:50:57

Steam doesn't stop charging for Digital game downloads after development has stopped either, so my point still holds. And in many cases, digital releasers like the consoles or Steam do not reduce prices either so my point works, even without a cartridge or physical disk.

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2018-12-17 21:50:04

Actually yeah, they do. lol Games start going down in price give or take a year after initial release, more if they're not being developed any more.

"I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee."
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2018-12-21 23:30:16

bookrage wrote:

Steam doesn't stop charging for Digital game downloads after development has stopped either, so my point still holds. And in many cases, digital releasers like the consoles or Steam do not reduce prices either so my point works, even without a cartridge or physical disk.

They don't stop charging, but they also lower the price. A game that was $60 on first release can be had for less than 20 dollars a year or two after its initital release.

One prime example of this is 7 days to die, which I got for under $15 and it was original right around 35 dollars.

I understand that we're a small market, but $10-15 off if the game isn't going to be developed anymore isn't a lot to ask and may sway potential buyers toward it.

If not that, get on these forums and tell us of the status of vg-storm, its progress, what future plans are, something. Show us you're actively developing *something* so we know we're not throwing money at a dead horse. Because I truly love the games I've bought from this company but I don't want to see it drop off the face of the earth after I spent hard earned money on something.

-wolfy
Barks at everyone, wags tail
great videogame music websites: http://www.vgmusic.com and http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks.php?r=533

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2018-12-22 03:03:09 (edited by Socheat 2018-12-22 03:03:37)

And, he haven't update the unknown gifts, either. So the unknown gifts became known gifts.

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2019-04-12 00:56:16

of course He will do that.  because he became crazy about the community. and  people asking him to make his games free.

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2019-04-12 02:58:00

A lot of games just came out recently the price came down $30. Only six months ago. So he should reduice half price and it's almost twy years old.

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2019-04-12 12:21:28

Personally, I know it's a minor thing, but having to flag something I payed for as an exception to my virus protection program is a problem.  I love the game, but I don't like having to do that.

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2019-04-12 12:34:57

Well well. this game needs a really big update, new maps, and that we can get all manamons offline without internet, because this game does not have server so you have to create it, and I can't because of the router.

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2019-04-12 12:40:20

same   problem.
I don’t think he will   update it any more because  the website is not updated.  so  he  leave the developers community

2019-04-13 04:38:13

I notice that. Personally I love the game, but, I just wish more update to the content.

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2019-04-14 14:37:51

Guys, even his website needs updates, and he didn't update it. So why should he update those games for us? smile

You guys have to live with that.

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2019-04-14 14:48:04

i think aron has given up on this game and his website

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i take out my gun and fire at the big lava chunks that bubble around me
i make my way up to my throne
there i rule the world

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2019-04-14 16:16:16

Maybe he have family or girlfriend problem. That's why he disappear?

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2019-04-14 17:11:27

He says it’s because of his job, which might be true. Still, i don’t think it’s exactly fair to charge so much for something you know you won’t be able to support properly. Idk who we’re kidding though, coming from someone who knows him, he’s the type that’d do anything for money. Just look at psyco strike.

2019-04-14 17:47:43

That's why our blinds community doesn't trust any developers.

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2019-04-15 06:10:11

while I understand that erin might have a job, I really don't understand why that should keep him from popping in every once in a while to let us know he is still here but that he is busy. If he's not planning on working on the game anymore I think he sshould just make it free.

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2019-04-15 14:02:48 (edited by Vulcan_Raven 2019-04-15 14:06:43)

I understand that people here are upset that he has not been working on manamon.  I am as well, but asking for it to be free, No! No! No!  That is like asking Konami, Sony, and Nintendo to
make all the stuff they no longer update to become free.  How about just lowering the price?  40 dollas is terribly expensive for an audio game.  I think 20-25 would have been a good range for his fun but flawed buggy games.  Complaining over and over and over will not bring an update to life, and as for post #3,766, can you explain further?  Having the ability to connect to a central server would be nice, and or beeing able to catch all manamon off line would also be nice.  has anyone knoticed that the unknown gift is still the same?  Does anyone have the lunar that was a gift a while back?  and if so at what level?  I would like to get it at the level it was given so that i could train it myself.

Their is no such thing as a master.  One is never done learning, and those who claim to be a master at something are far from becoming one!!

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