you

finally understand it. if we all get impatient about every game, developers

are never going to release the game. if i were a game developer and you were

impatient and posting 10000 topics with: when will this game be out and all,

i will not release it until you guiys are calming down a little. i mean, if

we all post topics with asking when and when it will be released, you'd

probably know how James North feels.

hi

i ahve paid for a game and i expewct it simple as so tell him to get

a move on and if he is a con artist get him on this damn forum to admit

it
i am not gettinga  refund if i dont want one
like veryone else mate,

i'm annoyed as he gives six thousand dates knowing he cant stick to them so

he is pissing us all off intentionally then acting like a baby who has lost

all his toys
will

Y'know, if all these games are really actually being canceled or whatever

it's no surprise to me what with all the griping. If I were a game

developer I'd sure want to just throw in the towel if all I got were

questions on when a game was coming out. Maybe the guy's new to the

business or, even if he isn't, things don't always go as we plan, so for

bob's sake stop! posting! the! same! questions! please!

hy

arggen
do you really think he's not relissing it because we're aking him

when it will come out?
I mean , that's really ridicule, what o you

think
your describeing it as though james is a futher that want's to give

something to he's little kid
and the kid ask's daddy , when will ya give

it to me
no!, that's ridicule , it's business we're deeling with

hear!
he's to profet from this god dam monty, so he can't akt like

that
dont ya understand
thanks
big y

i personally think, that it is everyone's fault

that james is giving false release dates.
if everyone is grilling him on

the forum, smearing his reputation, and so, to try and make amens, for

something you are making him feel bad for he's trying to do as much as he

can to keep you all quiet.
he may need a week, a month, or three months

before his game is out, however due to himself and gamers putting pressure

on him he's in a hole, and it's getting deeper.
it would be better for

all of ya to wait, isn't it better to get a good game with no bugs that has

been well tested, or would you like a half-assed game done, just to get it

out on an arranged release date?
regards
q

I

think I've read posts from him on here from time to time so ya can't say

he never comes on. And who's to say it's not because of us that these

games aren't coming out? Audio Game developers, not being as big and

mainstream as video game makers, are in a bit more of a position to do that.

Hell, if I was a developer and all I ever got were complaints about games

not being out when fans want 'em, I might sure throw in the towel. So just

in case there's the teensiest possibility that Audio Game makers do have

the authority to cancel a game because of all the complaining then for the

love of god stop! your! damn! griping! and! let! them! do! their! job!

please!

Oh

come on, who actually thinks it was him that posted that.  It just didn't

sound like something a good game developer like him would do.  IMO someone

just wanted attention, and was using an impersonation of James to vent, or

maybe just to act stupid.

Now, here's my $.02 on the whole Monty thing. 

Keep in mind though, that I'm just basing this off this forum and the AGS

website.  I'm not on any game-related email lists.  I can see why people

are mad about it.  He kept saying it'd be out on such and such a date, and

then he'd keep moving it back.  I can see moving it back once or twice, but

hasn't he moved it back more times than that?  No wonder some people are

uptight, especially if they paid for the game.  At least now he's

explaining why it's taking longer than anticipated.

On the other hand,

James does make a good point in the email that was posted in the other

topic.  I never realized it until I read it, but the really high quality

accessible games are in fact less than a sighted person pays for a new

PS2/Xbox/GameCube game.  It's just that we want games that are equal in

length to what sighted people are getting.  I hang out on gamefaqs.com when

I'm bored and just want to kill some time, and there are always people

whining on there about how a game is too short, or is too "kiddy," or other

stuff like that.  The first example of this that jumped out at me is the

GameCube game. the Legend of Zelda: the Wind Waker.  It seems like people

never stop complaining about it, but at the same time there are people who

really like it.

As far as how long a game is, I'd say audio games are

about equal to games that came out at the end of the NES's lifespan.  Since

those games were released on carts, they were around $60 brand new, or at

least I think it was something like that.  Imagine paying $60 for a game

like Monty or MB.  These games are around $35, which would probably be a

good deal on a new mainstream game.

Just IMO,
Brian

yes,

a few. and one time is enough. you can complain about it, but not 1000000

times. just, get it. and Brian and chaos-ninja are right. also, on the old

forum, tournament on the nine kings hasn't a real release date, and you

still kept moaning and  all. now, its canceled. and, btw, James north does

not come on this forum, but i believe he has an email address, and some of

you on the forum email him, probably with the stuff you are saying on this

forum right now. i dont really care if you complain once, but 50000 times is

way too much. just slow down a little bit...

Though I agree that this isn't worth continuous complaints about I don't

think that is why he's not releasing it.  It wouldn't make any sense if he

did... I mean here we have many people who are willing (and probably have)

to pay money for this game, and when it's ready he would probably want to

satisfy the customers by releasing it, thus getting more because he's

actually selling something that exists.  What he's doing now is actually a

bad thing for his company since he is gaining a bad reputation pushing

things back every time they are announced despite (in past release rumors)

his promise that said date would be met under any and all circumstances (Max

Shrapnel, back in January 2004).  I personally think he is disorganized and

thinks that something will be ready in a shorter time than it actually will,

jumping to conclusions too early and thus having to leave a messy trail as

he corrects those mistakes by pushing the release back further, which is

definitely not the way to run a company, especially since the orders page

states that the product is shipping while it appears that it is not yet

finished.  Great job, you've stolen money from people expecting to have a

game shipped to them.  THe trailer was some proof that something was

happening though there were some glitches that in my opinion suggested it

was compiled in a sound editing program (things panning too far to the left

or right, sounds popping out of nowhere and a little too early before the

footstep sound... etc.).  However I don't think that he's a complete scam

since he has released five other games under ESP and he set up this website

(which admitedly is pretty much the same thing as the old ESP one with some

words changed) as well as a working shopping cart and other sections.  But I

wonder why at this point he won't just come out clean.  In my opinion it

would be a lot better to be honest since what little reputation and

credibility he had is now lost to most of us.

James