Realizing that I am very new to this forum, and, also realizing that I will probably have my head handed to me, I must say this anyway. i'm not so sure what this carma thing is, but, if I counted on votes to be popular, I'd never get anywhere. My thought is either people will like you, or they won't. as for me, I try to treat everyone as I would wish to be treated. I want people to like me, but, I'm not going to lose any sleep if they dont. i just thought the silly carma thing was there to either agree with an idea or no, or,...to say, "Good idea, wordes well said" Don't let the little things upset you. Life's full of harder stuff. *smile*