As I said Drg, the virus did it's thing with these dlls before I installed avg, so the damage was already done in that sense (if I'd had avg first off it wouldn't have happened).

If these are indeed hrmful dlls, it's probably then that the virus instigated some process to search for these at startup, and sinse avg got rid of them, they're obviously not there though the process is.

i'll have a look through avg's startup manager and see what I can find about searches run for thesefiles.

Eddit: Well, my estimation of avg has gone up considderably. Using the startup manager I found both processes and removed them, and indeed several other pointless things my pc was doing at sstartup into the bargain (such as running windows live messenger, which I don't use).

So, the upshot of all of this is no more "lost dll" blips at startup, and my computer (and Hal), starts up far more quickly.

Which is good. Thanks for the advice Drg but as I said, I'm confident enough of Avg's ability to actually despose of viruses before! they do nasty stuff, and now, using their pc tune up program, I'm pretty happy with their ability to do things like registry cleaning and removal of pointless things, ---- virus damage included, as well.

I may well considder getting the full version of the Avg pc tune up program, because it's certainly been helpful thus far.

I also am a paid member of avg until 2012, (it was one of their nicer deals), so couldn't switch anti viruses really even if I wanted to, ----- though to be perfectly honest as I've not yet had a reason to be unhappy with avg I'm not sure I want to.

It was my own fault really.

I have setup spam rules to auto delete dodgy mail.

Checking my mail, I deleted a quite legitimate E-mail (I think from the audeasy list), then thought better of replying.

so, without looking I went streight to my deleted items folder and hit enter. unfortunately, my anti spam rule had worked very well, s the first item in deleted items wasn't the mail i wished to reply to, ---- but a dodgy one which had been auto deleted!

If I'd just looked I wouldn't have got the virus in the first place.

At least this made me go and download avg to get rid of it, which it subsequently did.

There is a free edition of AVG as well, as is the case with most decent antivirus programs todate.
Lukas

As far as I know, AVG will update itself even if you use the free edition. The commercial edition has other modules bundled in such as firewall, spyware protection and so on. I might be wrong in the details but this is generally the principle with free antivirus software versus their commercial counterparts. So if you do know about a reliable freeware solution for a firewall or spyware cleaner, you should be good to go just with the free version of an antivirus. I freely admit that I might be entirely wrong though, as Dark says, as I like the wording (to admit it freely) and it is extremely relieving. LOL
Lukas