Man oh man. I really think I've chosen the right programming language for me since I'm getting all manner of sound advice and wonderful meat to chew on. With all of that being said, has anyone here heard of a program called jupytr notebooks? it sounds like another kind of program like notepad that'll run your python programs for you. Just how accessible is it if at all? the reason I ask is because I've found an organization called edx that has free courses that teach you how to use python, and one of the things they mention using is this program called Jupytr notebooks. If it's not accessible then I won't use it. But are you certain that notepad will be able to debug my code effectively enough? and Ronand, how about you and I keep in touch since you really seem to want me to succeed and are so happy to help me out. I can use all of the help I'm able to get so if you'd like to email me, you can reach me at [email protected] if you so wish. Have a wonderful day and I look forward to hearing from you all soon and thanks so much very sincerely for all of your help. And for all of you nay sayers out there and smart mouthed people, I'm going to say this very politely. I fully intend to bring revolutionary content to this community if I'm able to work to that point and I'll play it right down the middle and be as fair as I can. So if you don't like that and you haven't got anything kind to say then don't say anything at all. We were all newbies at one point and I'm no acception. Math was never ever my best subject at all, but I finally believe with all of my heart that I've found the right language that I'll be able to pick up and use. I might even have to find someone or a group of people to actually work with me and tutor me so to speak with some of the more complex stuff, and if that's the case, then so be it. If that is what it takes for me to bring the kind of revolutionary content that I'm wanting to bring to this community then I will do all in my power to make it so. I am karate25 and I've approved this message. Lol.

Hi Karate25.
Well I'll tell you, there are some bad people on here that would insult and mock you for being a beginner. That said, there are just as many good people on here that are willing to help. I have a little programming knolidge, and one thing I've learned is don't get discouraged. While your programming you'll make mistakes, create really troublesome bugs, but the fun part of that sort of thing, is figuring out where you went wrong and correcting it. Or at least that's a lot of fun for me.
Don't be afraid to ask for help, everybody needs to have help when they're really stuck. Keep working at programming until you can create the next hero's call. Just be careful with doing artificial intelligence, you might succeed, and destroy the world with a really smart AI ROFL!

Hey there again guys, karate25 here. Man, I must say that I am having quite the fun learning journey on my path to game creation with Python. I've learned that pygame might be the best gaming library to use for my creation of games and worlds, now I just need to figure out how to install it. I've also heard it said that the python community is the most helpful and friendly community of programmers you'll meet because they want to help us newbies learn the language and how to make wonderful creations. And believe me, I can believe why this is all true. I've got more help right now than I know what to do with and I could not be happier. My progress is coming along slowly, but I'm able to do very basic math on python and by basic math, I mean stuff like 100+100 and so on. But hey, that's farther than I ever got with BGT so for me that's a technological advancement. I noticed that with BGT I felt more nervous and like oh man, do I really want to do this after all? is this the right language for me? but with learning Python, it isn't like that at all, rather it's a journey and I'm figuring out how to put all of my tools together and what tools I'm going to need to be successful. In fact, speaking of tools, you might try an accessible editor for python called EdSharp. It's completely free and it's accessible by its very design. It even runs with jaws window eyes and nvda. Just do a search for EdSharp and it'll come up. And I'll also go and grab the direct setup link and post it here for those who'll get use out of it like I am. Have a wonderful day to you all and I'll keep you posted.

Hi Karate25.
Never fear, installing packages is easy! I am a novice programmer, but you can easily install packages with pip. I forget what version of python your using, but both the current versions of python 2 and 3 have pip available when you install them. Change your system variable to point to python 27 or python 36, be careful doing this though, then run command prompt or windows powershell, then when python is running type pip install package name. For example pip install libaudioverse or pip install jango. Pip stands for python installs packages, and it collects packages from PyPi the python package index, which has everything you'll need. I don't know how to install packages manually, but I'm sure that can be done as well.
Hth.

Hello again everyone, karate25 here. I just wanted to give you all an update on my progress with python. I've gotten pygame installed, and I've upgraded my version of pip to its latest version all of this with the help of a sighted buddy of mine who also knows python. He gained remote access to my computer and he helped me get all of this put together where it should've been. Now, I really feel as though I can get coding. The only thing wurrying me is I hope I don't have to get too much into algebra if at all when I make games, because I failed miserably at algebra and math in general. I'll give this an honest shot and I won't discuss any games until I know I've reached a point where I feel comfortable enough to build any. So there it is. The latest update on my progress with learning python and how I enjoy it. Incidentally, guitarman, if you don't mind, is it okay with you if you and I keep in touch? I'd like to see what knowledge you have and see just what you're able to teach me, being another blind python user. Let me know my friend and I look forward to hearing from you and everyone else soon. Have a wonderful evening to you all.

hello nice and really helpfull topic . plese keep posting how do i install pyp pygame and libdiverce >? so nice to here  someone  trying to  lern code .

Hey there guys. Thanks so much for the extra help. Ironcross, that actually makes lots of sense about asking for that kind of help and how it's not very effective if at all. I understand it completely and believe me I wouldn't have even asked for it if I didn't really need it. I was really stuck on how to upgrade my libraries and upgrade things to the latest versions. And as far as the algebra is concerned, I don't really know it, in fact I had lots of help in college and in high school and had to be tutored and have one on one work done with me rather than trying to work with a whole class during college. This is how bad my math skills are. Math for me is like criptonite to superman. I will give all of this a try though but I'm telling you right now, I'm going to need help when it gets into the more complex stuff about health and inventory and other things like that. My games are going to have a lot of that stuff in them. If I even have to find other python coders to help me pick up the slack, I'm even willing to do that too if I must. I'm just going to come out and say it, and excuse the language please. I don't normally talk like this but god damn it all, I want to bring revolutionary content to this community just about as much as I want to be able to play main stream games right alongside my sighted counterparts and I'm glad to see that game companies are slowly beginning to wake up and take notice of us and see that we actually do exist and that we're capable of playing games just as well as sighted people do. Have a wonderful day to you all, and I look forward to hearing from you soon. By the way, absolutely nothing you say here offends me at all, in fact quite the contrary, I look at all of your advice as extremely valuable even if I might not always want to hear it. I want to learn this stuff and I'm glad you all are being so very honest with me but not being hateful either which is nice.

Wow ironcross, you're really making lots of sense with me so far my friend. To share a very similar story with you, this one involving my church I used to go to, when ever I would ask to be involved with anything at all, I would usually get variations of one of these two responses. People would either say to me, oh Daniel, you don't have to do anything, you can just come and sit and be a blessing, or they would say oh you don't have to do anything you can just come to what ever the event happened to be and just say one of your eloquent prayers and we can all just enjoy your presence. No, I've got a fully functioning brain and I'm nobody's aesthetically pleasing wallflower. Give me something to do. I now have changed churches and these people absolutely love me for who I am, and my blindness and my prosthetic leg aren't even issues, and on top of that I'm even allowed to help out with things. We recently had a carnival celebrating our 25th year anivursery and I got to hand out the prize bags to the kids for the games we had set up. I said all that to say this, that I completely understand where you're comeing from and this man did do it for me but afterwards, he sent me back a set of instructions as to how I needed to do it in the future, so now I'll have them. And I'll learn and read how to do it all myself too. What I'd like to find are some free accessible books on how to build games with python. I know I have to learn it all but what I'd really love to have in my python learning library are some books on how to build different kinds of games with python. And not just simple games either. I know that's probably an impossibility but hey, I just thought I'd throw it out there. Have a wonderful day and thank you all for your sage advice.

ah. Well see there's the problem. Money's kind of tight right now, so I don't want to spend 30 bucks on learn python the hard way as of yet. Right now, I'm reading a byte of python and it's a pretty cool book actually because you can read it directly online. I do plan on learning everything eventually though, slowly but surely.