Lucas nailed it. To be brutally honest, if tts is the thing what's so special about it/ I mean, yeah Mac voices are great, but are they worth calling home about when all you need is a voice to get you by in your game? I mean come on.
As for the engine? Not only wold the whole thing have to be recoded. It isn't even a recode, it would be a complete do-over since .net framework has not been made for Mac. So two engines that work completely differently, and have far too different underlying code? Yeah, no thanks, sorry all 1 in every 10 of you mac users. out there. Run through wine or vmware fusion, what else can I say. The playingfield is evened out as electron and js starts to handle more games, I really see a lot of potential in that. But it still has a lot of growing up to do as a platform, webaudio couldn't possibly handle a h c or any similar game. At least not yet. I'll be the first to say that I really hope it eventually does. But for now it's just too prepubescent to handle fmod studio's job.

This is purely academic at this point, since the probability of this actually happening is exceedingly low, especially since mac isn't a gaming platform. Joseph from Out of Sight Games has already laid out the challenges that have been involved, and not to cast aspersions on anyone from that venerable company, but due to the loss of the developer (Ian Reed) who wrote the engine, he will have the most intimate knowledge of how it works. And while OOSG did say that he is available for consulting work, consulting and being there, writing code, and working on something he built from the ground up versus getting someone to that level of knowledge with the engine he wrote is a challenge indeed.

Not just that. And while FMOD isn't an issue (its an assembly, which is portable across all platforms, if I'm not mistaken, unless it was written natively), you'd need to rip out tolk and somehow implement your own custom screen reader abstraction too. The work to do something like this is incredibly huge the way we've layed it out already, and there are probably other components of the engine we don't know about.

Hi,

@eric
I am not going through the whole topic, not right now at least … But my Your_adventure audiogame is build in bgt, and ported to mac as well. Check my website to get a link to download the distribution.

I agree with the posts i have read thus far. There indeed more audiogames on iPhone, then on mac, but i also dug a bit into what apple requires from it's developers, and those requirements aren't requirements i don't want to come by … It is far to much given my skills and expertises.

hth

greetz pelantas

Couldn't agree more. Soon, it just works, will mean that it just works and only allows you to do what it's explicitly meant to do, screw the enthusiasts. Yeah, they claim that mac osx and ios will still remain separated. There's only so much separation you can do when you're using your own damn chipsets! If Apple would stop bitching about Qualcom, and keep things going with Intel, they might get somewhere. But no, all they want to do is make an excuse to release new hardware that will eventually impose itself on the users. My Macbook Pro2015 will surprisingly be supported till 2021. Afterwhich I'm probably gonna want a custom build pc or something to that effect. It's very unfortunate, even when I bought the thing back in 2015 you could still say it was the machine you wanted to buy. That was before Microsoft had a complete culture shift and started making windows10 better than ever. I'll say it again to emphasize my point, voiceover is becoming the Jaws for Windows of first party screenreaders. Just you wait. There is some frightening truth to what GW Micro said years ago, about Apple including the screenreader being a huge disservice. Obviously they meant it as a marketing ploy years back when they actually put it out there, but with the way Apple is going? Now I could almost buy their argument, because what they predicted would happen, happened. Well it hasn't happened yet, but if they keep going down this read, it sure as hell will happen, and people who swear by ios/mac are going to get an unfortunate rude awakening. And there's no one anyone can do, because voiceover is obviously closed source. go figure.

The problem Ethin is that Apple, with iPhones in particular, caters to the technologically impaired. Mobile in general kills technical competence. And I don't need to explain any further, because this article should speak for itself.

first of all, if I get an admin warning after this post, I'll happily accept it. secondly, I've quit reading after post 33, I just saw no point to it. and now, the post shall began. warning! strong language!
there are 3 types of blindies. 1) the apple blindy.
these guys are just what the title says. newest mac, newest iPhone, oh wait, iPad pro, fuck, let's also get an apple watch. these guys, simply, if it's not made by apple, will refuse to touch it. never mind paying 1500 bucks for a mac, which they'll have to boot camp for what I can only consider basic things, or find work arounds like wine, but one of those have nothing special about them. I've spent countless hours on facetime with one of these guys, so I should know.
2) the JAWS lovers. these guys work even more simple. it doesn't work with JAWS? fuck it, I'm out, I won't fucking use that piece of shit, the dev doesn't give a shit about my favourite screen reader, JAWS! how dare they!
3) the ones that learn to adapt, and aren't afraid to change. while there aren't that many of this category, certainly less than there should be, some of us are willing to adapt, use work arounds, get around the issue, so it fits our personal needs.
it is pretty obvious at this point, where the poster currently falls. it is also pretty obvious that if one can afford a mac, they can also afford a laptop, or whatever else. buying, rather, bidding for a god damn laptop, you can get one on eBay next to nothing. so you got no games on the mac? no worries, get a laptop for 200 bucks, install NVDA, and install all your god damn games! .
if anyone got offended, or reports the above rant, that will only further prove my point. and I'm not afraid to get a warning for what I can only describe as reality.
now onto an actual question. since macs can install DMG files outside of the app store, curious minds actually wonder, as to why there are so few games, given that IOS needed,last I heard, like $200 for a developer account, and all sorts of other things, not to mention app store approval. it's also interesting, since I believe the play store isn't that restricted, (though never researched it) yet there are less games for android, than for IOS, that are accessible, and from a none-developer's point of view, while there would be less customers, it would be cheaper to maintain. so yeah, I, too, am confused about the mac, to be honest. and while there is nothing wrong with wondering, which is also what I'm doing as well, hugging the 1500 bucks worth of mac won't get anyone anywhere.
on a serious note, I'm currently thinking of snapping up a mac book below £100 on eBay, just so I can learn it, and just so I can find out why the blind community loves it so much. who knows, maybe I can show off with it in the process.
let's see if I get any thumbs up, or if I wasted my time.

I have an iPhone because Apple nail the user experience like Android doesn't do. I am not naive about what they do, what they stand for, and what they are as a company though. It's just that I choose to accept these things, for now at least. I have had several Android tablets which I'e rooted, flashed custom ROMs on and fucked about with the Xposed framework and GravityBox which let me make it really personalized to me. I also put the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 7 2012 to try to eek a little more out of it, but she wasn't having any of that.

The Jaws lovers annoy the hell out of me, and FS's best in class thing is like, oh my fuckign gawd, not anymore buddy, not in like a decade, or 5 years or so, sorry about your luck. Half the time web devs have to go out of their way to make shit work with it that other screen readers are like hmm OK sure. Even if its not technically correct to spec, they'll try to guess and give it to you as they interpret it, if its not 100% to spec, and even sometimes work arounds in ARIA because even if it is to spec, still nothing, but even if it is spec, Jaws might still not work with it. If your code isn't right, just forget about it. Accessibility on the web is huge and comprehensive, and I love that other screen readers at least attempt to salvage the situation.

I would like to see programs written in such a way as to be screen reader agnostic. If your program is written such that it exposes its elements to one of the accessibility APIs, Jaws should work with it, if it doesn't, its not the fault of the developer, its the fault of the screen reader manufacturer. Also, Jaws lovers are so petty and arrogant, and want to get all butthurt if you point out to them something Jaws either doesn't do well, or that another screen reader does better.

The non-changers bug me too. The ones that are still using XP to this day, or that have barely just moved to 7 and will use that until it quits working. Listen, life is change, I don't always like change, but it comes my way, so instead of crying, I roll with the punches. That's what you gotta do, and that's what living life as a blind person is all about, its about adapting, solving problems, and what's better than solving problems is to solve them before other people are even are aware of them. One area where this problem solving, and anticipating problems will help you immensely is going off to university or college in America. You need to realize that your education is now your responsibility, you're paying tens of thousands of dollars, and if you aren't the state or federal government, or a combination of those, and others will be. It therefore behooves you to succeed, and do as much as you can to ensure your success. One way you can do this is to write up a little paper explaining your disability and things you might need, and hand this to each of your professors. Another way might be to get the list of books as soon as you know what they are, and see if you can acquire them through means at your disposal, like bookshare. If not, Contact your disability agency and get them to get the books for you. They will be able to send them off for someone to scan in or something like that, or may be able to get a digital copy from the company. Also, if you know that a course is going to be using a particular software package, and its something you've never used before, it is in your best interest to try and acquire that package and see if it is accessible, if it is, great, one less thing to worry about, if not, then you have the time to write to the developer and the manufacturer of your screen reader to try to get something going. It would also be the time to meet with your Dean, or Disability Director to be like, OK, this is what I have next semester, this is what I can confirm, I've bought these books in digital format, i'm sending away for these other books to be scanned by a professional service, but I have one or two I can't get done, and I have this piece of software that will not work with my screen reader. You'd rather be dealing with this when you have a few weeks to spare rather than like 2 days, trust me. So, the whole, I never adapt, I never change, that dooms you to failure.

43, thanks for the kind words. it's the little things that count.
42 nailed JAWS users on the head. sadly, on win10, narrator will be my secondary choice of screen reader. I remember using iTunes with it in 1607, people were laughing at the idea. however, due to issues outside of my control, am back to windows 8.1 and 7, but as soon as I get a 10 device, I want to do insider, and make a difference to the community. microsoft listens, so if one goes the right way about this, we will all benefit.
as for your android tablet, you have a nexus 7 2012 as well? if yes, try installing 7.1.2 liniage CUSTOM ROM (excuse spelling.) that's what I did, and since I did that, I no longer want to let go of the tablet. was gonna sell it, but didn't want to spend money. same for my laptops, I'll use them till they literally die. I also don't want, or need the latest and greatest. again, 42 nailed it, so I have nothing else to add besides the android tablet thingy.

Posts 40 through 45 nailed it. As for Linux being an un-user friendly operating system...let me again point out, all be it valid points were raised, that Linux is user friendly, it's just very picky about who its friends are. If you want a computer that just works then don't get Linux, unless you're willing to learn it. You're willing to get up-close and personal with your computer? Linux all the way. I honestly have no problem learning a new system, how do you think people back in the dos days managed when that was the only option, and there were no gui's to screw things up? When people actually had communications settings to deal with? Lol.

47.
1) if my windows crashes, I fire up a windows PE, restore an image, job done. I will also have speech throughout the process.
2) I don't recall anyone bitching about apple products in particular, we've just pointed out that we don't like the way apple is going about things.
3) you've touched up on the point, which, I'm not sure of the others, but I was trying to explain. you use whatever works for you. so OK, you have a mac. so you need games, you install windows. you also use linux, I believe, and whatever else you happen to need. that is exactly what I would want to encourage post 1 to also do. in the meanwhile, I'll see if I can hunt off a mac for below my price range, and who knows, maybe I'll end up liking it. but again, there is a difference between using a mac willingly, and working around issues, or expecting people to put things on the table for you. hope this helps to clarify.