hi,
Free products tend to contain adds or spyware. I am after paid solutions.

that is true, but you need the full fledged client, to change servers and locations etc. And also the vpn connection protocol. Vpn providers don't allow you to use p2p file sharing  on all servers most of the time. Just some of them.
One final thing, don't assume that not telling me will somehow stop me from figuring it out. I am at least as competant, if not much more so, than the average computer user.

I use to use HMA proVPN, till I heard they keep logs.

That one was recommended by Jonathan Mosen on his blindside podcast..

It wasn't bad, but not so good with torrenting, so I guess that one is out.

I now use private internet access, and that one actually does let you do torrenting.

You can't use netflix with it, but that's probably a really small price to pay.

HMA on the other hand did let you use netflix, but who knows when that will eventually stop?

I'm also finding Private Internet Access more accessible than HMA.

Funny enough HMA is suppose to stand for hide my ass, well if they're keeping logs, I guess you're ass aint so private after all.

So firstly, on to the personal attacks. Please stop depicting this issue if it was a black and white issue, and  dipicting it if your viewpoint was the only viewpoint, by using such words of certainty. There many people who  don't share your morals,  and  who might have different morals. I am one of those people, and only I decide what is morally right and wrong for me. And you insulting me and calling me a  coward is also quite low.
One other thing, when giving anyone tools, it is not my business to instill any moral values, which are mostly relative. I give to the tools to a person, and they are free to make their dicisions based on their own morals. Accept tthe fact that many people see the world quite differently than you. 
Now onto open vpn. I thought open vpn was a protocol.   But good to know it's a client.  So if I ever get a vpn, I can configure it to use  my prefered vpn. Does it also allow you to see which servers allow file sharing and such? Windscribe for instance says that the clients indicate which servers are for file sharing and port forwarding and which ones are for browsing. Two final questions. Can vpns  allow you to port forward,  even when behind cgn or a firewall? If so, that makes them even more atractive, as both at home and school, I cannot forward ports, at  home due to cgn, and at school due to firewalling.

Well, I really am not just talking about you Enes, so the cowardly thing was not trying to be very personal, or really any of it accept the last couple lines.
You are representing the idea, so I am attacking the idea.

And you have made some good points, such as how pulling digital copies from the ether takes essentially 0 resources as compared to manufacturing a physical item or using material in order to provide a service, though, that is not always true when paying licensing or royalty fees to another company for each copy soled as required.
Also you have taught me more about the laws around this subject, and how different governments view online piracy, though, let it be noted that most of them are full of people who can not afford the product anyway, with governments who lack the resources to police them even if they wanted to.
I also agree that the concept of morality is not held by only one person or group, and that their is often allot of gray area between the (likely nonexistent) inherent right and wrong poles on any given subject.

However, when ever you put your personal moral compass out their for everyone to see, as you have willingly done, than you should expect to receive feedback on it, and the more polarizing the subject the more negative it will potentially be.
So call it a personal attack if you wish, and I will cut back on similar statements in the future towards you out of courtesy, because I have been too harsh I think, and even though you have also made personal statements, as well, your main argument still hinges upon the law, rather than individual morality.

That said, their are still many pointless and outdated laws on the books all over the world (gay men not being able to donate blood in an emergency, obviously non consensual sex while married not being considered rape, a minimum age of consent below the age of sexual maturity, being ticketed for whistling in public on a Sunday, being stoned to death for having a baby by rape, getting away with disabling hospitals and other vital infrastructure in other countries with viruses, major animal cruelty, and so many more.
So just because it's on the books does not mean you now suddenly have a free pass to do it from society at large, it just means you can't be prosecuted for it.
Plus, many of these laws are still being hashed out haphazardly by a bunch of old farts who have no idea what they are even voting on, accept for what they are told by often times bias advisers with no sources, even though the situation has much improved within the last few years from what I've seen.

ok found this article, which brakes down the no log vpns. They asked all of the vpns whether they allow p2p traffic on their servers.
https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-a … 17-170304/

Hi,
@enes
Besides PIA so far, the only 2 I can think of that are good from the list above would be IPREDATOR and CRYPTOSTORM.
Havent used any,just from reading reviews.

Defender, if and how you want to help is entirely up to you of course,and if you dont wish to help because x y z,more often than not its better to not say anything at that person like you did in this topic,and keep it to yourself. imo of course.
Its difficult enough for us to find accessible versions of things without adding morality into that information...
But fare enough.
Grryf

Hello.
@Enes, you said about windscrybe, I am using Windscrybe free version some time, but I couldn't change the server or see that in which server i connected in.
Could you guide me in these things?