2017-09-13 14:09:13

Hi all,
As I have all reddy said, I am planning to make a website. How ever, I don't know from witch company or what ever should I get a domain. I have heard of hostgator, But I am wondering are there maybe some at lower prices or more stable or something like that..
Any help will be apritiated.
Kind regards,
Aleksandar

If life gives you communism, become a communist dictator.

2017-09-13 14:35:31

Personally, I'd recommend Jolly leaf as a great starting point.
They've got several different plans, with the starter package at only $1 monthly, so you can get on the web cheapily, get started, and then upgrade from there.
They've also got great support (I speak from many filed tickets), and are happy to help you figure out whatever you're working on.
Their site is:
https://jollyleaf.com

2017-09-13 16:35:56 (edited by queenslight 2017-09-13 16:45:28)

Another good option to check out, is Name Cheap:
http://namecheap.com

I have the "Value Package," which is 50 gigs space, 50 subdomains, 3 web sites, 50 emails.
Hosting starts at 9.99 USD for the first year, 38 USD after that.

PS. You do not need to buy hosting if you just want a domain however... Cheapest domains start at around 8 USD, though they will have frequent deals on them.
You can find a complete list here:
https://www.namecheap.com/domains/new-tlds/explore.aspx
, which is also "searchable" to narrow down a specific domain extension.

2017-09-15 17:11:47 (edited by Green Gables Fan 2017-12-06 15:00:09)

Are we talking about shared hosting, sSD, Cloud VPS, OR DEDICATED hosting? Those are the FOUR major types of hosting. Shared hosting only limits you to using C-Panel OR SOME OTHER WEB-BASED ADMIN TOOL, and ftp ACCESS WITH File Zilla or Win SCP to transfer files. You can't control your server the way you would if you were using the SSD or Cloud VPS like http://www.linode.com/ and http://www.vps.net/ I personally prefer to host my own server so I can have full control of it and do anything I want. The third type of hosting uses the cloud. iN THE FOURTH TYPE OF HOSTING, you are solely responsible for building the server from the ground up. That's called a dedicated server. It is only recommended that IT experts choose this type of hosting.
Shared hosting is like sharing a flat or apartment with other tenants. If you clog up your toilet, it will clog up the entire plumbing system for the rest of the tenants Therefore, maintenance has to come over to fix your problem. Take that analogy to uploading a slow-running script. If your site visitor activates the script that causes a heavy load on the RAM, it will slow down all of the other web sites stored on that machine.
VPS (SSD) hosting. This is a little more like a mobile home park or small neighbourhood. You have your own home and everything, and most of the resources are allocated to you. A VPS is like a physical machine in a data centre with lots of virtual machines, each with a different IP address which people can access remotely. The only disadvantage is, if the power goes out, everyone will lose access to it. Think of an entire neighbourhood losing power because a transformer blew up.
VPS (Cloud) is a little bit like SSD, except that if the physical machine loses power, the virtual machine is automatically migrated to another physical machine. So think of the neighbourhood example. If one of the transformers breaks, the system will automatically connect you to another functioning transformer so you can continue to use electricity.
Dedicated Server is where you are all alone. That's like buying a property in a rural area and you need to hire contractors, or build your own house, and connect your own plumbing, gas, and electricity lines, or have your own power plant.

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Reedsy

2017-09-16 07:10:33

@4, your slightly wrong about dedicated servers. Dedicated servers are just like VPSs with the added bonus that the resources for them are not allocated from a central computing node. Instead, a dedicated server is built -- from scratch -- by those who host the service. Most likely with dedicated servers you can get more resources than you can with a VPS. The only downside to dedicated servers is their most likely more expensive.

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2017-09-16 11:57:25

Shared, Dedicated, VPS and Cloud hosting explained
All sites and blogs on the Internet start with hosting.
Hosting is one of those beasts with so many variables that everyone gets lost, even developers with plenty of prior knowledge. In this article I’ll clear up the differences between the most common hosting types: shared, VPS, dedicated and cloud, let’s get started.
Dedicated Hosting – If Your Site Exceeds 100k Visits/month
This is the hosting service that negates all bad neighbour issues because you are all alone on a server. This provides a host of benefits, but also comes with quite a few downsides.
Since you get a computer all on your own, many companies allow you to customise it extensively. You may be able to choose the amount and type of memory, the OS to install, and other hardware elements that make up a computer. This gives you a lot of flexibility which may be needed for some specialised software.
The downside here is that you actually need to know quite a bit about computers and server technology. While there are managed dedicated hosting solutions you’ll still need to do a lot more on your own.
On the extreme side of things, you could get a completely unmanaged service where you would even need to install the OS yourself, let alone all the tools needed to run a web server, security scanning, malware removal and so on. I wouldn’t actually call this a downside, but it’s something you need to be aware of when shopping for a server. If you want to go dedicated you’ll need a server admin, or sufficient knowledge to do it yourself.
With great flexibility comes great control. You can potentially run a lot more applications in a more streamlined fashion. You can run a bunch of tools that serve only one purpose: making your website faster.
Being alone on one server comes with another downside: hardware failure. With a cloud VPS if RAM fails in the system, other memory modules simply take over. With VPS if something fails, another memory module might take over, or the module will be replaced automatically pretty quickly. With dedicated servers you might need to wait a lot more, especially if all the server monitoring is up to you.
When would someone need dedicated hosting. In today’s World with cloud VPS catching on I would maybe even discount large sites needing dedicated hosting. Dedicated can take a lot more hits than traditional VPS, but nowhere near anything a cloud based system could scale to.
The only two times I would say you definitely need a dedicated server is if you have highly specialised needs in terms of hardware, or you want a lot more control over your data’s privacy than anywhere else. A dedicated server compartmentalizes you which can be a bad thing, but from a security point of view it’s great.
Some of the best dedicated hosts are: WiredTree, GreenGeeks and PickaWeb.
https://hostingfacts.com/different-type … b-hosting/

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Reedsy

2017-09-17 15:27:59

wo wo wo. wait, I don't understand hardly anything. ok I will have to have a server on wich I will host a website. now. when I get a domain from somewhere, do I get a software wich I install on the server? or do I have to get it from somewhere else. And, VPS is like a computer wich is good enough for hosting a server. How ever, do you have the complete management  over it? I meen, can you change everything in real time or you have to like send them a new version of your website? sorry but I am actually quite new at all this. big_smile
Kind regards
Aleksandar

If life gives you communism, become a communist dictator.

2017-09-17 15:58:39

Hi Aleksandar, if you look at the post number 6, I added a resource so you can learn about how hosting works. Right now it doesn't talk about how to install the DNS software onto your OS, but one good option is http://www.hover.com/

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Reedsy

2017-09-17 19:55:10

@BigGun, if you don't know much about computers and technology, I'd advise you to learn all the terminology that web hosting and server hosting use before committing yourself to it. I'll outline them for you so you know a bit more of what we're talking about:

  • Dedicated hosting - A hosting account where only one web host has control of the entire server. All resources are allocated to one account.

  • Linux Server - A server that uses Linux, a free, open source operating system used by most shared and free web hosts

  • Reseller Hosting - Where a block of server resources is sold to an individual for purposes of using it to host multiple domains under their own name

  • Server - A computer that delivers information to other computers. Your website will likely reside on a server that is owned by your web host

  • Shared hosting - Where a website account resides on a server that is shared with other accounts. System resources are shared between all accounts. Most personal and business sites can use shared hosting without exceeding system specifications.

  • VPS Hosting - Virtual Private Server, is a server that is partitioned with each section acting as its own server. Typically this is less expensive than a dedicated server but has more flexibility and functionality than a shared plan

  • Windows Server - A server that uses Windows as the operating system. This type of plan is typically more expensive but necessary to accommodate specific applications

  • Add on Domain - A separate web site that is included in your account sharing the resources of whatever plan you are on.

  • Bandwidth - The amount of data transfer that is used on your account. This occurs every time someone visits or uses your site, an email is sent or received or files are uploaded and downloaded.

  • Dedicated IP - An IP address that is used solely by your website. This is necessary if using SSL to accept payment via the website

  • Disk Space - The amount of space allocated to you on the server to store files, pages, emails, and more.

  • Parked Domain - A separate domain that points to your existing account. Often people purchase the .com and .net versions of their domain. If you use either one the same information will be displayed

  • SSL - Secure Socket Layer, a means of encryption commonly used for Ecommerce sites so accepting credit cards is secure. You will see "https://" in the address bar when you are using a secure page

  • Uptime - The amount of time the server is uninterrupted and your website is accessible. This is typically shown as a percentage. You want a high uptime (99% and above) so as not to disrupt access to your site

  • .htaccess - Allows you to set parameters on specific files. It is most often used for permissions to determine what access is allowed to a particular file

  • FTP - File Transfer Protocol, a means of uploading and downloading files. Most hosts allow this with some having added feature availability such as anonymous FTP and the ability to assign accounts so others can transfer files

  • SSH - Secure Shell, a means of file transfer. Many shared hosts will not allow this type of file transfer

  • Auto Responder - A way to automatically send an email in response to one received. Often used for "away" messages such as when on vacation and typical response times may be delayed

  • Catch All - An email address that will receive any email that is sent to your account without an already assigned email address

  • IMAP - Internet Message Access Protocol is a way to retrieve mail. It leaves a copy on the server until deleted permanently. Convenient for people who use multiple computers and email clients such as at work and home

  • Mailing List - Allows you to mail a group of people at once. Often used by businesses for news updates to clients

  • Pop 3 - An email protocol that allows you to retrieve emails from the server

  • SMTP - An email protocol allowing you to send emails. Most web hosts allow you to use the server to send email. However, some ISP's require you to use their servers to send email when using their service as opposed to your web host

  • Spam - Unsolicited bulk mail typically used to attempt to sell services or products. Many hosts will provide a way to control spam automatically

  • Webmail - A way to send and receive email via the Internet without the need for a separate email software

  • Blog - A web site or portion of a web site that has individual entries of various types. Typical blog posts include links, news about one's site, commentary on the world, pictures, video and more. Blogs are also used as a tool to drive business to one's site as blog posts are given greater weight by search engines.

  • CMS - Short for Content Management System. CMS is a way of organizing and managing the content of a website easier so it is displayed professionally but easy to modify

  • Control Panel - The control panel is the central hub for a web hosting account. This is where the user modifies and controls all aspects of their web hosting such as adding new domains and sub domains, uploading web pages and installing server applications

  • Error Pages - What comes up when a person attempts to access a web page that is either unavailable due to a server issue or attempting to access an unregistered domain.

  • Fantastico - A commercial script library available to automate web application installation

  • Forum - A web based message board where users can post questions or problems and receive answers from other users or the host of the board

  • Guestbook - A web page where a person can leave their contact information and comments about the site or request more information. Web page designers include these to get feedback from the visitors to the site

  • Language Support - The types of programming languages that will work with your hosting account. You should make sure you have (and most do) PHP and Perl at a minimum

  • MySQL - A database system that is often included in hosting packages. It is commonly used with a variety of applications

  • WordPress - The most popular blogging software available. It is free, open source software that is extremely customizable and is often used as a CMS. Many hosts provide this as a one click installation

But what I've provided is just an 'overview'. It doesn't go in-depth about what you need to know. If you don't know much though, shared hosting might be your best bet, because there you'll have the most support. I know that Dedicated Server hosts offer great support (some at least...) but shared might be your best choice right now.

"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament!]: 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out ?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."    — Charles Babbage.
My Github

2017-09-17 20:28:54

Where did you obtain this list, or did you write it up yourself? It might be useful to include a source similar to what I did so that others can get more information about the material.
I also suggest you take the Wikiversity course on introduction to computers. There, it will guide you through the material on how computers work, how server client architecture works, binaries, etc.

Ulysses, KJ7ERC
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Reedsy

2017-09-18 12:38:09

Seconding Green Gables Fan's recommendation for hover. Intend to get a domain from this this holiday when I have time, but have heard very good things about them (most notably their support).

2017-09-18 20:49:04 (edited by Green Gables Fan 2017-09-27 07:48:14)

I found another great resource to help people understand name and DNS servers. https://penguinwp.com/how-name-servers- … ords-work/ and https://www.thesitewizard.com/faqs/what … base.shtml
https://dyn.com/blog/dns-why-its-import … -it-works/

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Reedsy