Hi.
I've just messed around with Wine, and I'm having some weird issues, which other Wine users don't seem to have:
When I start a .exe file and Wine asks what to do, all the windows are totally inaccessible with Voiceover. Any ideas on how to solve this? I'm running the latest version of Wine and the latest version of Mac OS, not any beta.
The Wine configuration window is also totally inaccessible.
Now to some questions:
1: How do you install, for example, a missing sapi voice?
2. Where is the c drive folder located?
I hope I at leased can get my Wine fixed, so I can make game packages like others who are using Wine. Reinstalling Wine have not solved the issue, unless i haven't removed all the Wine files. It doesn't come with any uninstaller...

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The c-drive is in the resources/wine prefix directory of the app bundle.

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Thanks a lot, but I don't find it..
The c drive folder seems to be hidden, just like in Linux. I don't know how to access hidden files in Finder on the Mac. smile How do you do this?

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Never mind. I found the c drive folder.
I don't know what version of Wine you're using, but on my Mac, the folder is a hidden folder in my user folder.

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For who ever neads it, We have a Unix Exicutible for Mac that will install Homebrew and wine with espeak all on its own.

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But, you don't post a link. smile Where do I find this? Does this make me able to install things in Wine?

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Don't use Wine-x11 directly. Use WineSkin instead, and build a "wrapper" for every single executable program you'll ever use. It'll save you an awful lot of misery.

You don't need winecfg. Don't worry about it. There's nothing you can't really do with the wrapper, or with registry edits.

Where are you going wrong, anyway? Maybe I ought to write a guide. Notes from the Winery. Yeah, maybe I should, seeing as how it'd clearly be useful to someone somewhere. But it'll never be foolproof, and some experience will inevitably be required.

SAPI is a tricky one. I have an MSI file we built for Win2K and AGRIP, because the only officially supported method is to install the SAPI5 SDK. This is a long way around, requires sighted assistance, and is overkill. I will see if I can test a fully automated installation. So far the only games I've played under Wine are those from Draconis, which need nothing more than vb6. Oh, and it's generally useful to use the debug logs to find out what DLL has gone missing, in case you were wondering; the GUI dialogs are inaccessible with VoiceOver.

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How did you get Wine? I'm interested in knowing hwo it can be used. I heard that Linux users also use Wine or Debian to run exe files. That's pretty neat that you can do this though, if you can get it to work.

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Thanks for your reply Sebby.
I'm not sure on where to get Wineskin for Mac.
Do you have any clue on why the dialog which pops up asking how to run the program is inaccessible for me?

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I have a problem with WIne on Linux, Arch Linux specifically. Sapi sometimes crashes at the end of the speech sequence that makes the whole game to crash. Any way to fix this?

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@SLJ WineSkin is available here. Download the Winery, then run it. Get the latest engine. Read all the documentation on the site; it's very approachable and informative. There is also this guide on AppleVis. I'll give you further help if you have questions.

Which dialog is that you're referring to? Anything could happen once you run an executable, but you won't get accessible dialogs. The trick is to know what's happening by looking at logs, or just pressing keys until you achieve the desired outcome. Or, as in my case, learning how to install the binaries automatically, usually by testing out the procedure first in a Windows VM. Draconis games are a great example here as they're using InnoSetup; that installer can be automated with command-line switches, and of course the games themselves self-voice. WineTricks moreover can install many hotfixes, including "vb6run", silently; you can press Command-Y to say Yes to the MS installer.

The important thing: never give up. It seems impossible, until you beat it. smile

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[wow]. Thanks a lot. I'll check this out for sure.
I mean the dialog which asks you if you wanna make a Windows program into a Mac application so you can run it without having Wine installed.

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I'm not sure which dialog that would be. You build a wrapper using the Cocoa Winery app. Then, you open up the wrapper (show contents) and launch the Cocoa WineSkin app inside it. RTFM; it's all there. Have fun.

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Any reason why this wineskin winery doesn't allow silent install of wine tricks? Is it worth using this version over any version that does? I'm trying to install the gate, and in the custom commands textfield I put the inno setup switches /VERYSILENT and /NOCANCEL and that doesn't seem to work. Perhaps I'm missing one of the winetricks needed?

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