2017-06-15 01:34:28 (edited by daigonite 2017-06-15 01:35:52)

It's so silly too because accessibility just seems like such a better option, proper accessibility that is. If it's software and it's designed for common hardware, anyone could theoretically download it. Can't do that with surgery. Plus, you gain the workforce of all the people you were going to have to "cull" and make a whole bunch of mothers a lot less depressed. Just saying people!

I think the only way to cure all blindness would be to create some sort of robotic eye anyways, since that's really the only way to overcome the probem entirely. And then you've got rehabilitation to work out. Have fun tongue at least now it's obvious which solution is more viable.

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2017-06-15 03:49:44

Yep. But people just outright don't believe it's possible. (The people you meet walking 2 blocks...) What people believe is doable determines what they try/fund. The high costs of Jaws and braille do not help matters, since those are what people are most likely to encounter when investigating the efficiency.

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2017-06-15 10:59:14

@Draco since my eye has so much scarring from various mess-ups it is physically impossible to take my pressure accept "digitally" as one particularly nice ophthalmic specialist put it, I.E gently pressing on the closed eyelid with fingers.
Apparently I'm now extremely good at taking this manually, while pressure gun or pen simply don't work for me. So we have these hilarious conversationsDoctor: "your pressure is off the scale you need surgery"

me: "no it isn't my pressure is mid twenties at most, if it were off the scale I'd be in agony!"

Doctor: "but you need surgery!"

me: "but every member of my family for the last three generations has had a haemorrhage under surgery so bugger off!"

One thing I will say though, is being the son of two nhs parents, my mum a physiotherapist and my dada psychiatric nurse, I actually have a different view of the nhs generally. Indeed, When I was in the states getting married I was rather appauled at some of the conversations and things that happened eg

"I don't feel well should I get a checkup? well it costs %100 just to see if I actually have something wrong!"

or "I don't like what this last doctor is saying so I'll go to a different one, who recommends a totally different treatment which is impossible to get on my insurance!"

Frankly it all seemd a bit nuts to me, and what was even nuttier iswhen I discussed this with people their assumption was that people in  either paid taxes as large as insurance premiums, or were forced! to accept whatever a doctor said as lore because doctors were "The Government!"

so whatever else you say about the Nhs, I can  I much prefer it to the alternative, and in fairness in my case having grown up with two medical parents I feel quite qualified to give Doctors what for if they're being inconvenient big_smile.

Then again at the moment pretty much it's a case of see someone once a year whereupon I just say everything is fine with my pressure big_smile.

If I ever want to check if my sight has deteriorated, I just go and play my Snes big_smile.

@Afrim, that is bloody awful! sorry to hear the state in Albania is so nuts!

@Daigonite, I'm afraid I'll leave the technology and access discussion, since it is a little too close to my doctorate and after reading god knows how many academic articles on the nature of disability and writing and rechecking goodness knows how many pages of thesis I want a miner break from the subject, indeed my ultimate conclusion at the moment is that disabled people are quite capable of buggering off and leaving me alone! big_smile.

This is I'm afraid why I bowed out of the usability discussion thread, that is too much like work to me big_smile.

On the eugenics question I'm probably the wrong person to ask. My lady physically cannot have children, neither myself nor Mrs. Dark want! children, so the hole subject is marginally academic for us anyway, ---- besides with where the worlds' population is going before you get down to the question of whether parents should have disabled children, a much more relevant question seems to be should parents have children at all given that we're rapidly running out of room on this planet.

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2017-06-21 08:45:59

Perhaps I should weigh in since I have yet to even mention my condition on this forum. I was born with LCA (Leber's Congenital amarosis) Probably butchered that spelling. Anyway, I managed to maintain some sight. It allows me to see some color  and some light. Actually, I've always had a fascination with light for some reason. Anyway, according to what I dug up on the condition, it sounds like I got the better end of the deal, as it could have apparently have caused more severe problems.

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2017-06-21 15:56:45

@Dark

As my dad always says, don't forget that it is you who is signing the doctor's pay check, so if you don't like how a doctor behaves or how he treats you, you can always fire his ass and go hire another one.

From my own experiences, I've found that most doctors seem to be in it for the money while a few genuinely want to help people.

2017-06-22 07:28:20

Hello...
Just figured I would jump in here. I was born fully sited. When I was around 2 years old, we had a German Shepard going through training or something like that. Apparently I was able to open the front door when nobody was around or looking or something, and the dog either had a litter of puppies that I got too close to, or she jumped up and hit me and my nose was bleeding, or both. Whatever happened, it set her off, and I lost part of my left index finger and had a torn up face. I hear I went through 15 surgeries, 1 of which I had to have a skin graft put over both my eyes. I no longer have a skin graft over my right eye, but I have sinus drainage out of my left as opposed to where ever it normally comes out of, so that 1 stays closed. I'm able to see lights, shadows, and colors. As for the dog, I'd rather not go into that, everyone could probably figure out what happened to her. Contrary to what most of the people who heard about it think, I actually really love dogs, especially the big 1s. I don't have a big dog inside the house, but I have a little 1 who I'm fond of just as much. If everyone knows about Chris on the forum, he hated them ever since I told him about my accident, despite never having any direct contact with 1. Also, I've had a past of people giving their opinion on what they think blind people should and shouldn't be allowed to do, which ticks me off just a little bit looking back. I could go into other things I've went through, but I think I'll save that for another time.

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2017-06-22 11:33:59

Being born blind is definitely a lucky thing.

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