I know that some BGT games are are flagged as viruses. But from what I've heart, in my private opinion, I am not telling anyone its good, but I am going to delete all samtupy's games from my PC. Honestly, I have better MMORPGs to play. That's my last post in this thread

So, figure it's time for me to step in here. I will say right now that my games *Do not, contain any viruses. This is honestly quite sad to see. Hold on. I modify the system files? You guys... You need to be running a file as NTAthority\System to modify root NTDLL's. I can not do this. As you see, You even need to run the game as admin to delete the small file indicating you have not read the rules in survive the wild. Also, something else here. Ivan. I hate pointing fingers and I hate starting drama but if it's to protect my self, I must. Do you guys know the stuff Ivan has done? So many people could tell you. Ivan is a lire, a Manipulator, and several other things. I could give you a lot of proof, and will on private requests. Everyone in there lives do stupid immature things, if we didn't we'd be perfect. Yes, I do mes around with computer security stuff. Yes, a couple times in my passed, I have been very unwise and immature with abilities like that. But I have never, ever, not once, ever, put a virus, in my audio games. Think about it guys. Just think about it and I know this may sound a bit harsh but... Do you really think I would spend 2 years coding a game, working on that game and improving that game, just to infect a bunch of people that can't even debug an issue before blaming people with a virus? Guys, I have a lot better things to do in life. I'm not trying to say I'm perfect or anything like that, no one is. But really guys, yep, the virus program detects Sam Tupy's game as a virus and Ivan has said he has TT recordings. Yep, it's him. Lets look into the number of things that you can debug in this situation. 1. The scanner reports a positive. OK, on first glance maybe concerning. But before instantly blaming, think first. Virus scanners always show false positives. As hamada stated, it looks at the capabilities of survive the wild. Lets see here. First, it connects to a server with an encrypted connection. A trogen could also do that. It writes files. A trogen also could do that. It calls DLL's to record for voice chat etc etc. Yes, a trogen could, also do that. However, it's how the code writer writes his code. Yes it can do those things, but it does not do them in a harmful way. It writes files for the comp ban and the settings and stuff. It calls DLL's for voice chat etc. It connects to the server cuz... Um, well, yeah. It connects to a server. Anyone who can't figure out why should learn a little more about what they are pretending to be an expert about, but anyway. Lol. The thing is, is that I can't make you guys believe what I want and I won't try. But the anti virus? I know that is faulse. Ivan's TT recordings? As I said I've messed with that stuff in the past because I think it is interesting, but I have NOT used any games to distribute viruses, and have no plans of doing so. So, I will close this post knowing that the wiser here will realize that these games are virus free, and that the non wiser here will just stop playing them. Hmmm... Would I be a dick if I thought of this as the clenzing? OK sorry.

sorry for the double post but I'd advise you to check the last update to bloodshed. If I remember correctly, it was in 2015. That's... Old! Bloodshed and rs/stw imbedding something would have nothing to do with each other. And besides if he was trying to send out a virus via mass download, rs/stw would be a much better target. Bloodshed is clean.

@Sam I did not say that your games are viruses, I just gave a link to read the analysis of the virus total, I checked, and my bgt programs are also detected as viruses, I do not judge you and other persons to adding viruses to games.
Greetings.

Yeah I've gotten this one as well, and quite recently too.

Sam likes to put little things in his games that pull info like global location based on IP, and probably more, it's pretty much par for the course when it comes to the kind of dev that likes to continually try new things, little side projects to increase their repertoire, which is especially common among young ones. It's pretty harmless, and it tends to elicit some strong knee jerk reactions from people that often don't really know what their talking about, but it almost certainly doesn't help with this false positive problem.
Either way Sam, if you want people to stop freaking out over this kind of thing, you should probably make an actual effort to figure out why it's happening and try to fix it instead of just coming here to defend your self each and every time.
No one with a shred of common sense is going to put much stake in the explanation of the guy who's program is the issue in the first place, especially when it's not a very specific one, and basically just boils down to, my game does shit that other games do, which is similar to what some viruses do, because applications are applications, therefore it's all okay, nothing to see here folks.
That's kind of a shit reason considering most games don't have this problem.

Also, lets stop with this bullshit about blind people being more dramatic/entitled/quick to anger etc etc etc, insert generic badly thought out opinion here, because it's at least as annoying as the people who actually fit this description.
Besides, it's almost never actually the case, and the best part of it is that the people saying this are also often the ones who use allot of other sites slash forms of social media, and only consider ag.net to be a small piece of that.I guess this makes them feel superior for outgrowing it somehow? because these are the exact kind of people who should fucking know better, having seen a larger slice of the internet.
The amount of pointless flame wars, troll posts, and finger pointing on most mainstream threads is considerably higher, and if you don't see that, then I'm not sure what your smoking or what closed communities you like to hang out in, because the only reason it's gotten a bit better over the last few years is do to better generalized management of the problem based on hard won experience, E.G. posting rules, wide spread moderation, post filtering based on machine learning algorithms, and third party commenting services that do their own policing.
Have you ever seen a sub reddit, youtube comment, 2chan or 4chan thread, or forum post on a site that caters to an unpopular or contentious ideology? If so, then you know that these statements are complete and utter crap.
The effects of discord of any type in a small community are naturally going to be felt allot more, and it's surprising to me that this basic fact escapes so many people who are otherwise pretty smart.

It makes you look like a complete douch when you define an entire community based on the actions of a few consistently problematic individuals, and believe me, I've experienced it too, the Twitter slash Skype slash TT blind community, and yes, they have their problems, some that maybe more specific to being a minority and often being  on government assistants do to the difficulty of finding a job, which is far harder in some places than others, being locked in to using some of the more rudimentary /out of date forms of accessible technology do to having no choice but to use them while growing up, or being emotionally sheltered from the world by over protective sighted parents and the personal constraints of blind schools; but every community has it's unique issues, and rather than helping to fix them, even if only on an individual basis, you decide to turn on the entire community with an attitude of selfish, short sided arrogance, because you can half ass your way through a couple mainstream games and you use a laptop and braille display rather than a notetaker.

Besides, I've found that for every ten people you don't like for what ever reason in this community, there is 1 that makes up for it. Which again, is common in every corner of the internet.
And if you don't like a particular group of people, then why not just leave and find another anyway? Seems like your spending allot more time bitching than looking, because like I said, there are plenty of blind people to choose from that meet your personal standards, which I'm sure is totally not a subjective thing at all right?

OK then,
if that's true that Sam's games do not contain viruses,
I am really sorry for starting this. I have just realised some facts and wrote this.
Sorry again

alrighty, I've mostly been staying away from this nonsense because it's honestly childish, but I'm going to step in for two reasons, mainly that A, it's childish, and B, it has the potential of turning into something more serious.  No moderation hat as of yet, just advice and overall hand holding, in a sense.
To those playing Sam's games: RS-Games is also detected as malware depending on what program you ask.  I haven't run intense checks on it but can at least tell you of two programs that have picked it up as such, and I'm sure there are plenty of other games that get flagged as malicious regardless of what they're programmed in, Night of Parasite included.  Were I to go through the database right now I'd probably find at least 5 other titles that supposedly pose a threat of some sort; software is finiky at times and causes conflicts... Plain and simple.  You are advised never to use a piece of software or hardware without applying common sense.
To Sam: this is the second topic to my knowledge that has been created concerning your games on this forum, in the span of roughly 2 weeks.  Audiogames net as you well know does not promote malware, but I'm sure the overall administration panel will agree with me that it is not our responsibility to police software and screen every download link posted.  There are times when we, out of generosity, do take that plunge particularly when it concerns other software people aren't exactly sure of and which is being promoted as a helpful utility or other convenience.  We trust developers to post and promote content safely and to manage it to the best of their abilities because to protect the users of this forum is to protect audiogaming in general, a small and somewhat limited market currently in existence.
As a young developer, your attitude in post 29 is expected and can be appreciated, but perhaps it's time you stop to consider what your aim with developing games is, should you continue down this road.  If you are in fact creating games for everyone to enjoy, then I believe the responsibility of policing your software and making any necessary fixes including those that might be causing other people discomfort is one you should be taking seriously.  If you are making games for you and your friends alone, then I suggest you stop posting them here and save yourself and others a massive headache and time, because eventually the fact that you are so blatantly and carelessly looking the other way while people are reporting your games as malware is going to get around and hurt you.  Should we receive any official reports on this matter we may be forced to take action; what that may mean I do not currently know.  I urge you to act accordingly because I know you can and because we expect it of any developer that claims to have time to develop and maintain a game.
Can we please settle this matter peacefully and without any further finger pointing and beating up on each other?

@post 39 huge thumbs up

thanks for making me laugh again, p

why our comunity have ignorant people,
if you dont know something well, heh, dont comment about it, or you'Ll be scrude

Hi all. I understand your wanting for me to attempt to fix the problem here and make people more comfortable. However, something like false reports, as Hamada has already stated, are very hard to stop. I can report my games as false positives, however I know of no way to eliminate reports. Just as stw is not perfect, so nor are your anti virus programs. I can only control stw and redspot etc, and the scanners creators can alone modify there virus scanners. If there is anything you guys would like me to do to help you feel more comfortable with my games, please do let me know and I will see what I can do. However telling me to just fix the problem is not very easy as it is not my code that is causing it. I say this because I know, being the codes developer, that there is *NO viruses or evil code with in the program. Thus, any issues detected are no fault of mine, but are the fault of what ever virus scanner you decide to use. As I said I really don't know how else to help with this issue, but I am totally willing to listen to suggestions and ideas to help improve it.

I highly doubt Sam would be distributing viruses. It just doesn't make sense.
Yes, BGT games flag virus detection, but does that mean that Sam's games contain trojans or viruses of any kind? I think not.

@Green Gables Fan:
BGT scripts do not get compiled into assembly and then into machine code like a traditional program does.
What happens is that the scripts get compiled into what's called bite code, which is virtual machine code if you will, but only understood by Angel Script.
This stage insures that the script can't be decompiled back into source code form.
After this step, BGT encrypts the byte code, then takes an executable which is like a shell of the BGT engine and attaches the encrypted bite code to that.
So a BGT program is a static executable (which contains BGT, minus the compiler) with encrypted angel script byte code copied to the end of it.
So when you run it, BGT has to decrypt the byte code and have the Angel Script virtual machine interpret it.
So malware detection algorithms which analyze machine code to detect behaviour which is characteristic to malware can study BGT all they want, but they cannot determine what a specific game executable does without actually running it (unless someone took the time to find BGT's decryption keys, decrypted the byte code and studied it which seems unlikely given how few BGT programs exist in the real world). Now I'm by no means an expert in antimalware huristics, but I would suspect that an executable which has a block of data taped on to the end of it and decides how to behave based on the nature of the data would score higher on the tests and therefore be more likely to be flagged as potential malware.