@Caccio interesting.
The reason I asked about Avalon is that I've tried three times to get into the game. Each time I've done the academy and school missions (well accept for the militia one since that is dependent upon killing other newbies and there haven't ever been any around) and liked them a lot.
Still, I quite enjoyed the spy course, really enjoyed the herbalism course and loved! the disciple course.
I love the way activities seem to be detailed, and the standard of writing in Avalon some of the highest I've seen in any textual game.
I also really liked the way different things were unless you had certain skills.
the problem is that after the academy I got really! stuck.
The first time I couldn't decide upon a guild so ran out of newbie time, particularly since I took a long time to get through the academy.
the second time around I finally settled on bard, where upon a bard player told me to go and practice a bunch of skills, so that is what I did for several hours, just practice practice practice over and over again without any idea what I needed the skills for or the heck there even was to do in the game.
I probably should've continued, but I was rather distracted by falling very much in love with a certain lady I am now married to and arranging a trip over to the states, which finished up with me being engaged to said lady, so needless to say my endeavours as a bard sort of got a bit forgotten.
Most recently earlier this year I tried again, and this time had decided upon loremaster before I began, since I liked the idea of the crafting.
Well first off everything seemed to be going well, and I got the badge for writing your description, however then the player who was helping with this had to go off line, so that was that.
I go on again and say "Excuse me please what do I do now?"
And am told to read the badge list file. So I aske "could someone please help me with one of these badges?" to be told "well which one are you ready to do?"
I say "I don't know" since at this point I have no cash to buy items, no ability to feed myself and no dam skills to use, and am just told to read the badge list file again, which isn't much help.
so I am sitting there like a spare part, waiting for someone to give me an idea of direction, since I cannot buy items without cash, I cannot get cash without skills, there are no quests or things to do , and none of the help files are really specific, but while other players aren't rude, nobody seems to have time to give me instructions or quests or what not and I don't seem to be able to do anything in the game until someone does
After three days of logging in for half an hour each time and sitting around like a fool waiting for someone to actually help I gave up since it was frankly depressing.
It's a shame I loved! the newbie stuff, and the descriptions and some of what I read in the help about activities sounded amazing, but everything seemed so focused around other players if you didn't happen to be online at the same time as someone who was willing to help you get started was literally nothing you could do.
this isn't to say that people were unfriendly, the community seemed extremely nice in terms of questions, the game just seems so restricted that unless someone is literally prepared to mentor you to the point you can unlock enough of the game to actually be able to go and do things on your own, you end up pretty stuck.
I'll also admit that the help files for Avalon don't really help either, since while there is help on every subject under the sun, very little tells you how! to get started.
For example when you look at the help on a skill, it will tell you what a skill does, but not under what context you might need to use it, indeed since nobody told me how to dam well learn skills mostly looking up info on the skills I had din't help either.
that is why the db entry sites the learning curve and player interaction, since it struck me Avalon is probably a very good game once you get going,but getting started is a matter of basically being lucky enough to be online at the same time as someone who will get you far enough along to let you find something interesting to do in the game, which I'm afraid I did not manage.
It is of course entirely the problem with Avalon is more a problem with me, I freely admit I am not the most sociable of players and would always rather be off on my own doing quests or activities or other things than having to interact with other players, whether that is having other players attack me, needing to rely on others for different things, or even to ask someone to get me started.
I don't mind a little trading or an odd quick question on a newbie channel, but I freely admit I am a bit of a loner in games, which is possibly why Avalon is maybe just not suited to my tastes if even from the start you cannot progress without needing to rely so much on someone else.
With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)