aAwesome! Really awesome! There were two games I'd like to ply again and I searched for them with n luck. And now they are here again!
gv Thank youery mch for offering these games aain.

There's still a game missing. Unfortunately I don't know if I have it any more. They had a Space Invaders game too.

Aaron,
I forgot to include Space invaders in my post,but it is in the archive.
Space Invaders
Thump, thump, a flash of audio peeps, chirps and blips alert you that one of the six columns of invaders is directly over head. You hold down the fire button,
chupe, chupe, chupe and three enemy ships are destroyed. They move off to the right, thump, thump, thump, thump, and you try to get ahead of them. Again
they come into your sights and you let loose with another burst. Chupe, chupe, chupe, the last three of six invaders in the column are vaporized. With
no time to waist you move right again to attempt to get a bead on the first column of space invaders. You hear a high tone and before you can react, CA-BOOM,
you run into a bomb. Its all over for you, and a tremendous explosion takes out your fortress!

◦ Download full version (9.23mb).

Hi.
Well, if you want to play games with the talking dosbox, you first copy the games folder to the c drive folder in the dosbox folder, a better way would be that you put it under the games foldar which is already there.
so, when you start dosbox and activated your screen reader you type.
cd..\games\xxx, the xxx is standing for the games folder, for example
cd..\games\football for the any night football, I renamed the folder so I don't need to write that much.
When you have entered the folder you type
fb.exe, to run the game, and than you are already in.

Hi.
Well, I have written how to start games in my previeous post.

Dark,
I do hope someone does a Talking DOS box tutorial that I can add to my DOS games list.
Once I finish the update to my Sarah game I plan to post a page of my DOS games that will be easier to use than they are now.
I think Talking DOS box is designed for my games that need a synthesizer. The four self-voicing games in the list might need a different type of setup to get them playable. I hope someone with more time and technical skill will try them out.

As far as I understand it, the talking dosbox should theoretically run everything since it emulates a dos environment, it's just that what Pitermach has done with the talking one is somehow get one of those old dos screen readers working with it by default, though everything else should theoretically be the same as on a dos system. This is why i'd like to see a tutorial or something similar before I go creating pages for the dos games in the database, indeed such a tutorial would be useful generally for the dos games we already have like Fallthru and aemon deluxe.

As regards your games specifically Phil however, one thing I have seen people do is include preconfigured versions of old dos games that run with dosbox by default. I have one of the old graphical (and unfortunately not accessible), game turrican 2, another of prince of persia 2, and another very fantastic one for prince of persia which even has a standard windows property sheet that lets you play alsorts of mods and extra packs and such for the prince of persia game.

These are awesome since you can essentially pretend they're windows programs, you just start the thing up, then dosbox starts, then the game runs by default and you just close with alt f4 to finish, indeed you don't even need to tangle with dosbox at all if the initial configuration is done, indeed that is what the eamon deluxe developer did with the graphical version of Eamon deluxe, though sadly the dosbox text isn't readable by a windows screen reader and needs a dos screen reader running instead.

Perhaps you could discuss this with pitermach, since he's been so heavily involved with talking dosbox and has got it running successfully.

Even if you can't do the preconfigured versions thing though, a guide would be awesome, especially since a lot of newer gamers won't be familiar with dos, heck, i've never used dos myself as though i learned to type on a machine with windows 3.1 when i was 13, I did nothing on it but run word perfect and I didn't really get into doing anything more than word processing on a computer until windows xp came along by which point dos wasn't really around anymore.

Hi.
At janagirl, if you are using jaws, I recommend the asap screen reader, I often had the problem with jaws or flipper that it would crash when you start an application.
I talked with Peter about that problem and he also said that users should play with asap which is basically an braille n speak emulator if I got this right.
You need an extra tool for that to work and need to change some com ports, you can find instructions on how this works in the dosbox readme, if you can't find the infos, I can also look them up if you want me too.
If you have more questions, just ask.

Hi all,
I may be able to record a tutorial in the future, however at the moment I'm far from my usual setup so doing this is going to be at least a month away.

I haven't used DOS back when it was actually popular, but to my understanding this is why you really need a hardware synth, virtual or real to play DOS games, especially the PCS ones. DOS was never designed for multitasking, this is why you can only be in one program at a time, and for the most part the OS is doing one thing at a time. Conpending this problem, the most popular sound card, the creative Sound Blaster and its billion other clones, were not multichannel (that is they can only play 1 sound at a time). There's a good reason so few DOS screen readers support software speech synthesisers that output to a sound card - because DOS isn't multitasking, when a software synthesisers starts speaking the OS is only concentrating on that, plus a few keys to interrupt it. This of course really slows things down, especially in games where you need as few interruptions. To make things worse, DOS memory access is really confusing and primitive, and if multiple applications try to access some hardware, like a screen reader and a sound player accessing a sound card, it leads to crashes. This doesn't happen with hardware speech because nothing is accessing the sound card so it's more than OK for the game to take it all for itself, and DOS doesn't have to wait for the synth to finish speaking - the Screen reader just sends the text over a serial port which happens many hundred times faster than speaking something in realtime.

For all the great things we can emulate now, speech synthesisers are not one of them, which is why you have this somewhat convoluted com0com setup (you can think of it like installing a virtual audio cable=Com0Com, plus an audio repeater=the BNS emulator) to hear the text. Mess, the same emulator that gave us Apple II with Echo speech, has some support for Dectalk PC emulation. Getting it to work as a bind person at first is quite hard though as the emulation is really low level, down to the BIOS and all the wonders of having to tell it what size hard drives are installed and other such things where you have no speech, and the last time I tried it the speech was often glitching out. It may be something worth investigating again though.

For now, the best thing to do is to run Dosbox with Com0Com and ASAP, rather than JAWS which uses sound blaster based speech.

Dark, Dosbox doesn't emulate the synthesizer at all. What the virtual braille and speak is is a version of espeak that passes text through to a virtual serial port, and Com0com emulates the serial port, namely the com port. Asap, configured to use these ports, will then be able to recognize the virtual synthesizer as being a hardware synthesizer that it can then utilize. So basically, it's playing the role of a hardware synthesizer without the actual device. But yes, I absolutely will not hesitate to recommend asap over any screen reader in Dos for use with the games, since the synth doesn't require use of the soundcard, freeing up memory for the sound player.

Hi Jake,

could you write a description how to do the different Settings to get the games work? I really have no idea what to do there.

Jake,
Have you been able to play the self-voicing games?
These are,
Snipe Hunt2000.zip
Red Dragon Kick Boxing Challenge2000.zip
Space Invaders2000.zip
Duck Hunt2000.zip
If the archive has re-named these games, you can tell them from the other by their size. They are between 8 and 11 MB in size while the games that need a speech program like ASAP are smaller than 2 mb.