Heh, now it's political spam. Reporting.

this is the kind of post that is likely to start any number of flamewars.  If you are not a spammer, I suggest you take this to a forum that concerns itself a little more with American politics.  We are a diverse set of individuals from all over the world, and many of us don't care what Clinton and Trump get up to these days, as neither one of them truly seems to care about us.

@Ggf, there is actually nothing in the forum rules against people posting "biased" posts or their opinions as long as said opinions aren't put in an offensive way, indeed we often have opinions and biases on this forum of one sort or another.
As I personally find us politics a bit of a circus, I can't really say whether this is offensive or not (frankly the mudslinging from everyone in the Us is a bit bewildering, my lady says she's glad to be out of it).  Still if people want to discuss us politics there's no problem, actually we've had a few theoretical discussions on here before i think, just as long as things stay amicable.
so, mmmmm, likely to cause a flamewar? I'm not exactly sure since for a start a good proportion of forum members probably are as confused by the hole violent opposition in us politics as I am, and for another thing i don't think we have too many member's who's pro republicon or pro democrat or pro whatever else tendencies are likely to make them gett extreporous, however debates in the Us actually go (I did find political opinions over there rather scary I'll admit).

While I've heard it is spam i can't exactly confirm since there aren't any spam links etc.
So bottom line, as usual I'll only delete this topic if it turns into a major flamewar, which doesnn't honestly seem likely.
Heck, there is a slim chance the poster is actually a human being, though if this same post has been seen in a lot of other places probably not.

Mmm, Figment what has hhurstseth405's comment in post 5 got to do with being bigotted or narrow minded or whatever?

he just meant that as we're not tied to the Us we shouldn't have posts about us related political issues on the forum, ---- an attitude which isn't actually correct but which certainly isn't bigotted or narrow minded or whatever and doesn't warrent that sort of attack.

As I've said before, please relax!

Fyi, while I am from the Uk the main webmasters of the site, Richard and Sander are from the Netherlands (which is where the server that actually hosts the site and forum is), four of our moderators are from the Us, one is Tirkish (though living in London), and one of our ex mods was from the czech republic.

so this forum is not specifically based in the Uk anymore than it's based in the us or anywhere else, particularly since we do have members from countries including France, Germany, Denmark, Poland, Argentina, Brazil, Albania, Egypt, Iran, Teiland, Turkey, Japan, as well as obviously The Uk, Us, and The Netherlands, and probably a hole bunch of others I'm forgetting.

So talking about this forum having a national bias, or indeed an anti national bias is sort of a bit off.

If you want to know how much a president Trump would do for disabled, I suggest you Google for Trump ada violations.

Trump touts himself as a successfull businessman, well, look at how his businesses have treated disabled.

I really can't understand how and why choosing Trump or Clinton should even be a close call for disabled.

Hillary Clinton is a liberal who defends racial equality, criminal justice reform, environmental protection, women's rights, gay rights and even disability rights, whereas Trump's   stiffing of contractors, multiple bankrupcies and his Trump "University" scam speak for themselves.

A lot of otherwise intelligent and thoughtful people wrongly think that Trump is a closet liberal democrat, who is only pretending to be a conservative.

But that's wrong.

Trump has vowed to appoint Supreme Court justices who will overrule the right to gay marriage, and his Vice President Mike Pence is deadly set against the right to abortion.

Source:
"Donald Trump: 'Trust Me' To Overturn The 'Shocking' Gay Marriage Decision"

Another of his supporters in law enforcement notorious birther Sheriff Joe Arpaio who spoke at the GOP Convention is running a brutal prison camp.

"It costs more to feed our police dogs than our inmates. The dogs never committed a crime, and they're working
for a living,"

I may be wrong, But I don't expect that Trump once in power will be better for disabled than for Latinos, Muslims  or homosexuals.

Simple logic dictates that a politician  building his movement on claims that Mexicans are rapists or crazy conspiracy theories against Muslims won't bring anything good to people with disabilities.

@Dark

Simple. He said this thread should be deleted. Why? Because this site is not US based. That sounds very prejudiced against all the members of this forum that live in the US.

hi,
though I had no intention of replying further at first place, but I've seen a few instances on the forum where it has been brought to our attention that on the internet there are only written words based on which many people tend to draw certain conclusions of their own and consider a statement somewhat different from its original intended meaning. in other words, a person can draw ten different conclusions of their own based on just a single statement, and that may not entirely represent  the views of the moderators, or the community as a whole.

please bare in mind that every person firstly, do not have English as their first language, secondly, belongs to various regions, and thirdly they belong to all kind of groups, and moreover, their style of conveyance can be different owing to their primary language and various other factors. a person can have a different intention, either general or specific, but it can be interpreted in various ways by a person who tends to be judgemental all the time.

for example, it does not do any good if someone starts  jumping the guns after a slight bit of noise, or upon sensing a slight movement which has nothing to do with the present scenario, when at the same time there are other people in place to deal with this kind of situation as well. besides, that very person wouldn't be contributing to the cause by firing repeated shots which are totally uncalled for. this should be enough to make a situation sound worse compared to it was before that action, probably.

what i want to bring forward here is the consequences of this repeated behavior again and again. suppose the person who wrote the above didn't intend it to sound as harsh and narrow as interpreted by someone, would he feel comfortable to comment further on another similar thread later on? in short, this is not encouraging at all and wouldn't help anyone accept proving how biased and paranoid this behavior seems like, from the person who does nothing better but to smack down on those posts which, according to his so called conclusion, are over a certain criteria. if that is the case, I don't think that the moderators here are so ignorant as not to take any sort of action, and if not, then that person gets nothing as he isn't a moderator of course.

in short, if someone is not a moderator, they shouldn't assume a responsibility to act like one, and if they really feel something is going against the rules, better use that report button and let them decide, instead of coming here and being consistent with jumping the guns again, and again, and again on almost every post which is not written according to that very person's taste. I don't think that is the way a forum works, no sir.

p.s. I'll try to be careful next time while posting on a thread which talks about any Indian topic, as this forum is certainly not based in India, no way.

(I hoped there would be no flaming session, but alas).

regards.

We shall choose one of two evils.  let us base it on spammers!

@sid512, feel free to  start topics about India if you like, they might be interesting for those of us who don't live there to learn something :d.

As to this topic it seems the pro trump bot has started another thread about the evils of hillary clinton's remarks elsewhere.

This could be like a manomon battle, "my spambot has multi thread posting, but yours has specific forum attention"

Which will win! find out very soon!

I'm almost loathed to ban these spammers as I'm finding them sort of cute, assuming they are actually spammers rather than real humans who randomly join message boards just to push the party line.

hay, that should be a new character class on forum wars, the politician! who destroys forums by flamewars about political issues, ---- or tries to .

I've often joked (well, only half-joked, really) that if Trump won the election, I would move to Canada in disgust. Heh.

Ironically my lady actually says the same thing, that she's got out of the States just in time, albeit she really doesn't care for either side and gets very weary at the hole hype and drama of the thing.

It also doesn't help that my inlaws political spectrum goes if democrats = abortion =  bad satanic and wrong! then Trump = republican =  anti abortion = all that is good and right with the world.

No offense to any trump supporters since I've not really much experience with either side,  ---- but really! having an entire political spectrum based on one issue and a lot of rhetoric?

@Figment, why illegally... as someone who works wwith emigrants, especially those studying abroad who become permanent residence, it's actually relatively easy to get in here. lol As to the crap going away, with the way things seem to be going right now, no matter who wins you are going to have crap to deal with.