Hello,

I just had a look at the page you sent me and couldn't find anything on IOS 9.
Were you saying I would find something about the accessibility issues with VoiceOver before it came out?

Thanks,

Brandon

From Twitter:
AppleVis @AppleVis  5h5 hours ago
Today's the day! We'll have a wealth of resources available upon the release of iOS 9, plus two Twitter chats using the hashtag #AppleLive.

AppleVis retweeted
Scott @ScottDavert  4h4 hours ago
All iOS materials r ready for this afternoon in conjunction with the release! B sure to watch @applevis and @visionaware for coverage. #a11y

iOS 9 is released. I think the most noteworthy improvements are the iCloud Drive app for managing your iCloud data and the ability to save and add multiple attachments in Mail, the available Siri voices in VoiceOver, the ability to remap the VO combination to another key. Drawback: new keyboard shortcuts for Bluetooth keyboards only for iPad (no surprise there, really). I think I'm justified in my fear that OS X will soon be executed; iOS is where all the action is. And yeah it's a wonder Apple haven't put an SD card slot in the iPad Pro.

There are accessibility concerns, specially if you use a headset. Hold off until you have learned about the known issues.

Personally I'll do as I did with Ios 7 and 8, and wait until atleast version 9.1 to upgrade, sinse bugfixes are good and usually access issues crop up in the first release and are fixed in the next one or two.

Siri voices for vo is something I've certainly fancied, sinse i do like the siri voice even better than realspeak daniel (it was one of the few things about the Iphone 6 I found attractive, albeit not another 500 squid worth of attractive). This assistant also sounds rather nice, I wonder if it will let me group ap icons into folders or create contacts? Both are things I've wanted to do with siri (especially manipulating aps on screen sinse the dragging method is one of the few things that annoy me with vo).

So, I'll be interested to see where things go, though I'll hang fire myself for now I think sinse downgrading would be a miner pest and as I said bugs are not good, plus of course if there are any issues with games and aps and such they'll likely be fixed sooner  rather than later.

Well in your case, Dark, I imagine you'll find iOS 9 much more than about accessibility, since you've now pretty much got the file system of your dreams, albeit that it's in the cloud (where it should be backed up anyway). Doesn't have to be Apple, neither--just install the app for your provider of choice. And iCloud prices have come way down so you can get a terabyte for not very much.

But I agree; wait it out. 9.1 won't be so far off with the iPad Pro to be released later this year.

Oh well, that must mean it's true then.

Seriously though, I think it's fairly clear mobile is killing the Mac and PCs generally; pretty sure I remember also hearing Tim Cook saying they devoted all their resources to iPhone and it honestly shows. I think, if the Mac has a future, it will be as a kind of forklift or grunt platform for all those tasks considered too uncommon or specialised to be shifted to mobile. Now iOS is really quite capable of functioning as a productivity tool, so that's that coffin nailed shut. iOS will be the first-class platform and the Mac will be the second-class one. Shame. I'd love to work for Apple so I could change that.

I would never give up a mac for production work. I'm sure just about everyone in the audio production field would agree. iOS is ok for your basic person who wants to slapp together a song. But for professional studio work? It's not up to it

I'm not sure what you mean by "silly folder names" on the stream, sinse the folders all have sensible names, eg, other books, music, podcasts, notes, text, just with a dollar sign in front. The Usb transfer is actually so easy I often do it just for quick things, eg, when I was at aims music school for a week and was given unexpected stuff to do, I stuck specific tracks on my victor to listen to while I was wandering around, a process that probably took less than a minute, indeed that is one instance where a cloud system would've been inconvenient sinse the flats where I was staying didn't have a fast net connection and requested not too much downloading.

It certainly is something that might have it's uses, especially with what you say about note taking and word processing on Ios, but I've largely given up on the idea of an Iphone as a device for listening to any media on. Thenn again if I do go with the mac thing I know there is a lot of compatible transfer stuff between Mac and Ios anyway, indeed my brother regularly uses his Ipad as a note taking device and then transfers directly to the Mac.

One thing I'd also be interested in with Ios 9 is whether web navigation with vo will improve. When my desktop when capput last month i tried to use this forum with my Iphone, but ran into various problems. Some were obvious like the problem of vo really not working with dropdown boxes and how even with the rotor navigation to find headings I was frequently doing a lot of flicking, but some were just plane buggy, for example I actually couldn't post on this forum with my Iphone because for some stupid reason it was impossible to click on the submit button even when I'd written a post, vo just made the click noise and nothing happened (when I rang Apple to talk about the mac, this is one thing we did test and the chap agreed with me it was a bug).

Then again to be perfectly honest I confess my mind just isn't on this sort of thing right now. I'll see what Ios 9 has going, but really it's hard to concentrate on much else besides, ---- well my lady at the moment, indeed one reason the mac thing is not as much an issue is the desk where I was going to put it I might need for her computer if we decide to live together in my flat.

is it just me... Or  weren't we supposed to have a news app. I had news stand up until last  night and then it Disappeared, but no news app at all. anywhere

If there is a news ap in Ios 9 that is! something I'd like, sinse I do want to check the news occasionally but can't usually be bothered to do so online .
Despite the fact web and xp isn't as problematic as I expected, I am still considering the mac, or at least I've not abandoned the idea, but sinse it is likely I'll be paying for things like flights to pencilvania in the near future (and possibly even scarier stuff), as I said, not really a priority right at this moment, indeed I will confess I haven't been doing my job on site very well as I should do, ---- but really it's hard to concentrate on anything! else right now, even reading or music let alone games.

Yes, I admit this is horribly and worryingly cliche ridden, but before I start telling everyone how much i love her I'd better stop, despite the fact I do, ---- a lot!

Lol Sebbi, but I worry about hurting poor macky's feelings, after all she was all set to get hooked up and then I go leaving her for someone else and expecting her to wait for me .

Actually as I said the mac isn't out, but it might have to wait. depending upon living arrangements I might also do the mac laptop things rather than the desktop sinse space might be more of a problem than I thought, but as I said, not really a priority right now.

As regards the news, what news services does it do currently? if it literally is just news related to exciting apple products I can't see much use, but if it could get some standard news services such as the bbc or papers like the Onion, even if not random rss feeds, that might work. Actually having a similar thing to a news paper on Ios might be nice. While I do catch the news on classic fm each morning, obviously radio news is limited, indeed the news was  opne of the few things I did sometimes use my tv for when I used to have one.