2005-10-14 20:46:28

Brain never comes up with anything I can disagree to. Damn...anyways,

down to business. I'm agreed, that someone should buy the company. The

question, who?

As Mike, as to not calling you an idiot, it should be

obvious that they aren't sold anymore. duh!

Discord: clemchowder633

2005-10-14 21:50:50

Big

Y:
I agree. I'm against piracy of games, and that's what cracking the

keys would be. I'm glad I'm not alone. I just hope the games become

available again.

Maybe some could be moved over to other companies. I

know PCS helped in Ten Pin Alley, maybe they could get the rights to that

and possibly one or two others.

Big shame about Aemon, it was promising.

I hope someone takes over as much of Adora as they can.

cx2
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2005-10-15 00:38:31

Hey

guys,

Thanks for the responses. I don't know. Let me consider this a

moment.
Bavisoft, you're right. It's illegal to get cracked versions of

software, but if the company isn't back up within a certain amount of

weeks, months, or years, licenses no longer matter?

  HOlden

2005-10-15 03:54:57

Even if the games are released as "freeware" what about all those who

purchased copies beforehand? (I guess they'll just have to live with it)

James

2005-10-15 04:26:00

Oh

wouldn't that just bite.

2005-10-15 09:16:31

It'd still be illegal Holden. Even emulating old Nintendo games is illegal

even though Nintendo no longer makes money off them and hasn't done for at

least ten years. I do believe however that it's situations like this that

gives rise to many companies' piracy problems. Well it's not quite the

same. To give an example of what I actually mean, the company that makes the

RPG Maker applications for PC has, to my knowledge, never officially

released any in the United States. Thus, the only recourse for Americans,

aside from learning to read, write and understand whatever language the

application was written in I.E. Japanese or whatnot, is Emulation. The

company got so fed up with the fact that people had translated it to English

and made it available to us that they decided not to release the latest

installment over here, when the reason they had the piracy problem in the

first place was more than likely at least partly because of their decision

not to officially release it here in the first place. I wouldn't be

surprised if that was why Nintendo eventually made the original Final

Fantasy II available to us after more than ten years. For those that don't

know, the Super Nintendo game we know of as Final Fantasy II is in fact the

fourth installment of the series, and what we know of as FF3 is in fact FF6.

But anyway, I do understand why some people would feel that if Adora never

comes back their games should be made free or cracked. And as to having

purchased the games beforehand, I'm glad I purchased those that I do have

when I did. I only wish I could have purchased Alien Outback.

But wait, what's that? A transport! Saved am I! Hark, over here! Hey nonny non, please help!

2005-10-15 11:38:26

Holden wrote:

Hey guys,

Thanks for the responses. I don't know. Let me

consider this a moment.
Bavisoft, you're right. It's illegal to get

cracked versions of software, but if the company isn't back up within a

certain amount of weeks, months, or years, licenses no longer matter?

 

HOlden

Unless there is a specific provision in the license that

pertains to this, the license remains in full effect.

2005-10-15 18:31:01

Correct. Software liscences do not grant you a copy, but instead act as a

lease for you to use the program.

I don't know about in the US, but in

the UK  software is copyrighted as a literary work, so the same restrictions

as books are in place. It sounds silly, but it was the only way they could

prevent piracy early on... by declaring the code to be a literary work.

Images and sounds are normally copyright under the specific legislation for

imagery and sound/music accordingly.

If they reached a point where the

company was no longer going to resume development or sales, and I stress

*if*, I personally believe it is ethical for the company to release the

program and possibly even the code as freeware. Unfortunately the chances of

this happening are slim, and it still wouldn't make hacking the keys legal

or ethical.

cx2
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2005-10-15 20:02:00

Well, I don't know about the US, don't live there. lol. I live in

Canada and it's definitely the same as in the UK. You get a game, it's not

yours. You are simply using a license.

Discord: clemchowder633

2005-10-15 20:14:55

The US laws are similar. The international community recognizes the

copyright laws of the country in which the work was published. In this case,

the US. I believe I posted a link to the US copyright office earlier.

2005-10-16 00:50:38 (edited by Mike 2005-10-16 17:05:37)

bboyer202 wrote:

I'll tell you what happens. I didn't look at the news

section on the frontpage of adora (I guess I'm the idiot) so I purchased

pbx and waited, waited, checked email, waited, checked website, waited, and

nothing. My order is still pending and no one has responded to my emails. So

hopefully you can see why I'm just a little frustrated and am jsut plainly

asking for a key. I didn't have very much time to buy this game so it's

not like AOB or anything.
bb

You are right! I want PBX!

Regards,
Mike
Co-Founder, RS Games
www.rsgames.org

2005-10-16 03:32:52

Way

to flaunt illegalities there, Mike. Wise move. *rolls eyes*

Check out my Manamon text walkthrough at the following link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8ls3rc3f4mkb … n.txt?dl=1

2005-10-16 17:20:01

I know

the lease thing applies everywhere, I just meant I don't know about other

countries protecting software as a literary work. I'm not entirely sure

this is still exactly the case, I just know it was the original workaround.

It was either that or bring in new legislation recognising software as a

medium, and this was years ago when it probably wasn't worth the effort to

draw up laws to protect so few products.

cx2
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To live by honour and to honour life, these are our greatest strengths and our best hopes.