Thanks @Dark for the informations!

Sorry, I haven´t read the complete FAQ before posting - that was a mistake. So thanks for your understanding concerning hunter!
Oh, and I didn´t want to just ask for the key, I wanted to buy it - for its original price so that there wouldn´t be a problem... OK - that was wrong, I know it now.......

OK, then I´ll go to GMA now and get my keys. ;-)

It is pretty pathetic and unfortunate how bsc games handled that situation.  I purchased all of there games as they were released and enjoyed them greatly.  I should've bought that key generator when it was available, I remember seeing the post.  Maybe we can maturely write a letter to justin and see if he would relent?  These games shouldn't be lost to time.  It's been years since I've played them but I remember really enjoying pipe 2 because of the various gameplay genres covered.

I also think that it´s a good idea to write to Justin. Could, please, an English-native-speaker do that? I would find it - hm - more "serious" to receive an important letter/mail without too many mistakes in it... ;-)

@Dark: I bought codes for shades of doom and lone wolf as they are, after testing the demo versions, my absolute favourites. It´s really time for the weekend to begin now! ;-)

I see...
I have just looked for an address from Justin, but couldn´t really find one. Here are two links to profiles of him, but I don´t know if he still checks on them and/or if the mail-addresses behind the profiles are still active... Here they are:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jdauben
and
--- second link follows in a second message, I just got the error-message that only one link per post is allowed.

I didn´t install hunter on my new computer yet as I didn´t want that these few demo-days begin yet, but could one of you who has this or another BSC-game installed yet check the game-documentation for mail or real addresses please? I fear that they don´t work any more as well, but it´s worth a try...

Hi Stardust.
If you can you should definitly buy all of the gma games since they are absolute classics. I played the demos of bsc games years ago and never really liked them. I remember being able to beat the demos in a half an hour or so and figured the full game couldn't be much longer. This is just my opinion but I never wanted to buy them gma was more interesting since there was a lot more gameplay involved in those games.

I agree with Scotf on the Gma games.

The Bsc titles were some of the first games I bought back in 2006, well Hunter, Troopanum and Pipe 2 anyway.

Yes, they are absolute arcade and definitely reaction fests, though I will say the gameplay changes on higher difficulties, though possibly not enough to justify much. Hunter is imho the best, and that for it's audio ambience and atmosphere and the fact that your effectively getting a large set of smaller arcade challenges each with slightly different rules and mechanics, rather than the pure reaction fest of Troop 2 or the management of different factors that was Pipe 2.

We do have better arcade titles now, blind swordsman, somethinelse on Ios, however I would still be sorry for the games to Vanish, especially Hunter for it's very atmospheric audio, which is why I approve of the idea of contacting Justin.

One method might be to have several people club together buy the licenses from him perminantly to have the games released as abandonware, if indeed he's not working on them at all.

I'm not sure how much that would cost, but being as he sold fthe Keygen and all the setup files for 75 uss, I assume he'd be willing to enter into some sort of arrangement, though if he were asking several thousand we might be in trouble.

@Pitermach, that is a fare question and yes I confess I did bend the rules at first. the problem is sinse then we've had a couple of people who have tried to pass around still available games who sighted that as an example, "Well you let people post links to this"

I don't want the rules to seem arbitrary and I don't want to risk present developers who need the game sales being hard done to.

I won't delete the above topic or start handing out moderations to anyone who passed copies of the game around, but as I said this is a genuine case where I'm not sure what the best thing is to do for the community, sinse on the one hand as I said I certainly don't want the Bsc games to vanish forever, however on the other I do't want people to start using this forum for things they shouldn't, irrispective of Justin or the legal status of things.

Heck, even with code factory it turns out some of the games were still on sale at one point, though I believe this was a back catalogue of stock being sold by a general vender not directly sold from Code factory themselves.

I agree on abandonware Jaydde, several games I bought over the years became abandonware later, Tarzan Junior, Trek 2000.

Last I heard Liam had changed his mind precisely because people made arguements like yours.

With justin from Bsc though I don't think that is the reason. he's not stated why he refused to make the games abandonware, indeed sinse he finished his career as a game dev by selling all his stuff for 75 usd with a keygenerator to whoever would buy it before vanishing of the map, several people just feel he's being grasping and his principle reason for not releasing the games as abandonware is that that wouldn't make him personally any cash.

He never however said why he was doing what he was doing and as far as I know didn't communicate his reasons to anyone, so goodness knows, this is why I like the idea of sending him a deputation of some sort.

As to Gma, well with key replacements this is exactly why they're moving to an online account system where things like that are automated and don't require direct input from David Greenwood.

I don't think all his games are on the account system yet, and some you still have to run the wizard within the game to fill the form in and then send that info to David as before, but I think idea is to phase this out.

Btw, I never had problems getting key replacements myself from Gma, I just went through the wizard, added the new info and got my new key within two or three days.

@Jayde, I do see why you contacted david about that one, it makes sense and I would've done the same myself, though like browser games and other online shops the Gma account system does allow for changes of e-mail address, which won't help with your previous shades key but will stop yourself or other people running into the same fix in the future.

As I said, it's not actually clear why justin is doing what he is doing. The problem is the old adage "the customer is always right" has fallen off the map and it's now an accepted social practice to claime that just because your selling something that gives you the right to treat people like a personal cash machine under the umbrella of "Ownership" I don't know whether Justin's motivations here were like this, but given his sale of the key generator and that that resembles a last ditch effort to squeeze as much cash out of customers as possible rather than showing a respect for people who might want to appreciate his work in the future, I will say a lot of people have questioned his motivations.

I don't want to start accusing Justin here of being a miser or similar as some people have, but I will say his behaviour is rather suspect.

Superliam is On this page on Lworks There are links to download the demo and full versions, (don't know why he's still got the demo up now that the game is free, but hay).

Enjoy!