2014-07-22 18:34:29

boggarts and blindness, now that's interesting to think about.
One huge advantage harry would've had blind is the basilisk, no worries on that regard, he basically fought half of that battle blind anyway. Would blindness protected him from oclumency since it usually requires eye contact?
Also it would be interesting to think about magic enhanced sonar, maybe something like that would be help to a blind wizard.

Stevie-3

2014-07-22 21:02:46

Your correct on the Basilisk, indeed that might be a fun character for another fantasy story, a blind hunter of gorgons and basilisks and other creatures with gaze attacks.

Steevie to be correct,oclumensy is the magical art of closing the mind against mental attack, so there would be no need to protect yourself against it. What Snape did to harry was legilimensy or reading another's mind.

Snape did use eye contact, but sinse Voldemort was frequently ale to get into Harry's mind without through their connected soul I doubt there would be an effect. Indeed, given Snape's generaly adversarial personality and the fact that loking someone in the ey is generally a signifyer of confrontation, I wonder whther it was actually partof the legilamensy Snape was doin o Harry, or jut another expression of Snape's dislike sinse there is nothing menioned as special about eye contact in all the discussions of mind magic and if it was necessary you'd think Dumbledor at least might have told Harry about it.

this is rather different to say the harry  Dresden series by Jim Butcher, where eye  contact is necessary for a soul gaze and gives a wizard an experience of what someone's soul is like. I do wonder how blind people would work in that situation but given how  wooly, and none specific magic tends to be in the Dresden universe as opposed to the much more limited and sstructured variety in the Potter books, it probably wouldn't matter as what magic did would be dictated by the plot rather than anything else.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2014-07-22 22:02:08

yes I did confuse oclumency with legilamency, my mistake, it was still early for me lol.
I think I will have to check out some of these other fantasy stories mentioned here, I've never read any other good stories about magic that were even near as memorable as the HP series

Stevie-3

2014-07-22 22:19:53

Well the dresden books are okay, good for a laugh and full of big bangs and explosions but imho no where in the same league as hp for constructed world and characters, especially because far too many situations end with the main character suddenly feeling enough anxt and mysery to fling lots of magic firey doom at whatever is confronting him at the time, then continue to winj about it later.

I  can't think of many series that have an actual practicing magician as a main character. Memory sorrow and thorn and tad williams other series Shadowmarch, though they are exceptionally good fantasy are high fantasy and rather like game of thrones in that they occur in a very harsh medaeval world where magic exists, but the main characters don't themselves practice it, indeed in both series magic is sort of mysterious and like the magic in Lotr held at reserve.

Trudy Canavan's Black Magician series was the last book I read with a literal practicing magician as a main character and even involved a school of magic, but the first book was very ploddy and a bit ineffective, I also didn't like the fact that the main character pretty useless at taking any affirmative action. The third book of the series when everything goes to hell was indeed very good, but you have to wade through a hole lots of prevarication to get there, ----   though I will give Canavan credit in that the magic in her books isn't just instant deus ex like it is in some fantasy series and does have limits, although it's not as well defined as in hp.

Actually one of the best books that features magic and a magic school I've read recently was The rythmetist by Brandon sanderson, which is about a sort of steam punk style world and a school where people learn to create magic drawings  with chalk that can affect the real world. The magic there is very strictly defined in geometric terms, and an amusing point is the main character isn't actually a rythmetist, but would very much like to be, however Sanderson has once again just done the first book of a series and we're waiting on more.

lastly of course no discussion about magic would be complete without two names from the classic world of British fantasy. Diana wynne jones and Susan cooper. Jones stuff often features literal magic, and there magic is treated very much in a casual, everyday almost witchish way, she also has the ability to write wonderfully selfish characters. Several involve people learning magic and though they aren't similar to hp sinse the magic is far wilder and more strange, they also have something wonderfully charmingly everyday about them.

susan cooper is different again, sinse there, in her dark is rising series, magic is very dark, very mysterious but also extremely strictly defined on rather shamanic rules, like no crossing the threashold without permission. Magic is also highly restricted in it's use, it wouldn't be used for anything everyday and only comes up in the battle against the light and the dark which is the focus of her books. definitely one if you like really nice writing and many celtic and arthurian elements. Oh, and forget entirely about the dark is rising film, like most hollywood adaptations it should be cast into the  oobliette of infinity and banished from all existance! ;d.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2014-07-22 22:57:40

not sure if anyone has actually mentioned this here yet, but there's actually a couple decent fanfics that deal with this very thing where harry is blind
one is called harry potter and the guild of the knight and its sequal is harry potter and the crystalline darkness
the other I can't seem to remember the name of, but its not finished yet if I remember correctly

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2014-07-23 04:34:26

I loved the Dark is Rising series. I may actually reread that, now that I'm thinking about it. I remember the first 3 books in pretty good detail, but I don't remember much of what happens past that. It's been years since I read them.

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2014-07-23 06:03:22

It's called Harry Potter and the Witching hour, and I probably wouldn't bother with that one because there is only one chapter and hasn't been updated for many years.

For those that have the Harry Potter fanfiction folder, it's in the abandoned stories folder.

Stories in that folder are usually not updated in over a year.

2014-07-23 10:44:37

Dark is rising is fantastic turtlepower, I first read them when I was quite young, but I've read them sinse, including a couple of years ago.

The first book, Oversea under stone was written in 1965, 10 years before the rest of the series which is why it's a little different and slightly famous five, although with very nice descriptive writing. It's in the other four however written  in the late 70's where Cooper really takes off, the series even gets quite  dark in places.

if you like susan Cooper I'd also recommend her stand alone novel Seaward, about two teenagers who wind up in a fantasy world. It's stand alone, but very mysterious in places, and magic there is certainly interesting. I also appreciate the fact that Susan cooper was able to write a book about a teenaged boy and girl who don't have that stupid love hate relationship or spend all their time acting much younger than their age, indeed I got to like both characters.

I've written a review of seaward for  http://www.fantasybookreview.co.uk/ If you want to know more about the book.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)