2013-08-17 13:12:37

hi everyone,

since that i am five years blind at the moment of thiss writing, and that i before this new life enjoyed main stream games, i am very interested wich audio games you, as member of the audiogames.net community enjoyed first.
to put it simple ... also for me since english isn't my first language ...
tongue
what was the first audiogame you ever played, probably you also can tell why you liked it or disliked it.

this topic has probably no goal or achievement to gain, but just to tell your first experience. if you stayed in the audiogames scene or that you traveled to the main stream field.

my first experience:

my first experience was with the game sneller, this is the dutch version of drive and from the same developers. sander huiberts, richard van tol and Hugo verwei. my appologies if i spell this wrong, wich is a shame cause these developers are also from the Netherlands. it was a whole new experience. but when i got used to it it was a fun game to pass the time with.
at that time i was also rehabilitating due to my accident with the motorcycle and my bycycle. so it was giving a bit of relaxation to me when i was playing in my spare hours were i hadn't a training.

this was my first experience with audiogames. and i asked again and again to my parents if they saw something on the screen. they told me it was black.
i liked the game very much and i am still in the audiogames scene.

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2013-08-17 13:41:53

Well, as you're regular here, I take it you're eager and don't give up easily. This is great, as many people who lose their sight seem to instantly demoralise, which is a great shame.

My first game was Shades of Doom. At the time revolutionary, and in many ways still very good.

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2013-08-17 13:52:15

Hi Pelantas,

Hmm, I really don't know 100 percent anymore. I think it were german or at least german translated audiogaems like Der Tag wird zur Nacht, Mueckenjagt or Topspeed1.

I found them revolutionary at first but later I came up to bigger and better things like battlezone, Operation Blacksquare and stuff.

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2013-08-17 14:14:03

hi

@sebby
i really don't give up that easy. the most mainstream games i played were online but aren't possible anymore like runescape and flyff. the regular pc games were rollercoaster. that's what i mean with not possible anymore.
but nice imput. shades of doom was a game what i found quite revolutionary. but got scared of the sounds what killed my char off.
big_smile

@gamefighter

it is dissapointing that my german isn't as good as my dutch or english, so i ccan't join to talk about the german games. probably you can give some more info about them?
but topspeed 1 was indeed fun to play. was also a new method of gaming. with steering your car. completely different than sneller/drive.

but i also got hooked by other and bigger games, like swamp and railracer (this one is the most recent ..)

keep up the posting.

big_smile

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2013-08-17 14:38:34

Hi mike,

Der Tag wird zur Nacht is a game where you are a little boy having to get away from an exploding vulcane.

To do this you had to go through nine rooms. In each of them you will run against things. Some would be knocked down - at least it sounds so - and some would just hurt you a bit. After you complete all rooms, you would be taken away by a ship. This game is quite boring though.

In Mueckenjagt you have to kill mosquitos. You hear them and have to wait until they're quiet and then kill them by pressing space. The game runs for something like 5 minutes I think.

Check the db for more info, the games are there as well.

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2013-08-17 14:50:21

Well, I have to say my first real audio games I played were the bsc ones like troopanum or pipe 2 which were at the time the best games I played since I found out I could actual play games almost like sighted people with the exception of having a blank screen, of course. But of course, I then found more difficult and better games like adventure at c: battle zone and the road to rage, my favorites.

2013-08-17 15:02:42

Hello!
My first games were russian card games.
The first game has the name in russian "Durak". I can't say its english name, maybe FOOL?
I was playing in this game very much times because it is simple game and because I had played in this card game with my sister and cousin-girls in our grandmother's country house when I had been a child.
The second game was another card game which called in russian "Tiesyacha". Maybe its english name is 1000. I don't know.
I played in this game a little Because I always won.
My third game was russian mode of Shades of Doom.
I was playing in this game in headphones during 10 hours every day during 10 days and my ears began to have ache.
And I could not kill the main boss and because I don't like this game. I can't play in this game without headphones but when I play in headphones I have an ache in ears.
The first english game which I had liked was Super Liam.
This game is very fancy and creative.
And my first Oriental game was Night of parasite.
I like this game too!
And now I play in BK1 and BK2.
I apologise for my english!

2013-08-17 16:00:45

Hi,
The first game I played was top speed 2.

2013-08-17 16:10:16 (edited by nyanchan 2013-08-17 16:15:43)

Interesting topic.
When I was about 8 years old, my teacher told me about audiogames. She was talking about a Japanese audiogame called "Onsei base", a kind of baseball games. I played it like crazy. I cried when a stupid Windows Update dialog made me confused and accidentally deleted my save data. I also played the developer's another game called "The fishing". I think those games are borrying now, but I was playing them. I was crazy. lol
When I got used to browsing the internet at age of 9, I found Showdown from PB-games. I couldn't believe that the possition of the ball is heard from my headphones. Japanese audiogames didn't have such a feature. English audiogames were unbelievable for me.
But some Japanese audiogamers who liked English audiogames started to create real-time action audiogames. I've created Bokurano Daibouken, World Of War, and more. I'm now glad to hear that Japanese audiogames are enjoyed for foreign Audiogamers.

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2013-08-17 16:36:43

Wow Yukio, didn't know  audiogames were so known about in Japan  that a teacher would recommend them, needless to say it's not the same over here big_smile.

Myself, I have limited vision so played graphical games all my life from the age of four. i could not read the text, but often in the  contrast was good and if menues had highlighting I  could work out what was going on, distinguish my character from the background and work out enimy position, heck, even in the 16 bit  era I could play a lot of newly released games, although I did always want to play rpgs and other complex games.

My favourites were always  those with exploration and story, starting with rurican on the Amigar (especially for the music), and going on to games like Metroid, the mega man x games on the snes,  Super castlevania or First Samurai. I also played beat em ups (I played both original mk and street fighter 2 in the arcades and on the snes), and some puzzle games like  bomberman, as well as harder, more arcade like games like the Marrio series, although it was the exploration  action platformers  such as mega man x that  were my absolute favourites.

Unfortunately  though, the 32 bit era and the production of 3D games made playing most games near  impossible since the spacial relations were just too complex, it was no longer possible to  distinguish my character,  the surroundings and enemies in the same way. I could still of course play beatemups, but  that was  not  near enough.

in 2003, just after I'd been at university, I found a braille magazine article talking about online games, and I found the whitestick.co.uk site. I played a lot of online games and textual games, such as  legend of the green dragon, ashes of angels and sryth, (I was one of the original  people who played the free version before there was a  paid game). I had seen the page listing offline games and read a little about some audio games (I remember reading the galaxy ranger description), but I assumed that they must be symplistic or reduced in scope, and not near what I had experienced with  graphical games.

While I admit I was wrong on this point, in fairness remember that a lot of stuff aimed at blind people in this country  has a very condescending edge.

In late 2005 On the Sryth forums, I discussed games with bryan P, and mentioned my love of exploration. he showed  me the sarah developement  page over at pcs, and mentioned shades of doom as a game with a huge area to explore. I downloaded the thing and was absolutely hooked,  since it let me play a type of game I'd never tried before, a first person shooter. I think had shades not been my first game, had I first played a  card game or a simple arcade game I might well have not continued, but after  trying shades I ran across audiogames.net, and  was highly interested to see what else was  available.

Since at that point I pretty much had just finished my masters but not started anything further, I spent all of 2006 trying audio games out one after another. Some I liked, some I didn't, but even games like the bsc ones impressed me with sound quality,. I of course also posted on the forum, and  in 2007 Sander and richard asked  myself and a few other members to start help by writing news posts, ---- and the rest as they say is history! big_smile.

Btw, I do also still  play graphical games, particularly a very good turrican remake for windows, albeit I probably spend more time on audio games, web games and the like (partly for the purposes of the db).

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2013-08-17 17:07:07

My first audiogame I think was drive (the English version of sneller mentioned earlier).  In fact, for a while, I thought "sneller" meant "drive" in dutch (I was about 7 or 8 at the time).  Anyway, it was a lot of fun, then I wanted to play their other games but they were in dutch.  My dad found drive on a google search (or something like that) because I liked to sit by him while he played datona.  Anyway, you just reminded me, I'm off to play sneller.

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2013-08-17 17:53:45 (edited by pelantas 2013-08-17 17:54:17)

hi

yeah i am impressed by you yukio that a japanese teacher recommended you to play a certain audiogame. but that shouldn't happen in my country either, unless i am at a company for the blind and visually impaired people and the subject is gaming ...

but dark ... i am surprised by your story ... that you still have some remaining sight, while i was thinking when i saw your podcast for smugglers 3 that you also were completely blind since you're using hal. wich in my country is a screenreader wich will only be used by blind people.
this isn't meaned to be offending of course. i am just very surprised.

smile

but back on topic. that are a lot of games you played in your past. and you're playing audiogames and good you can still play mainstream games wich is a part of both.

big_smile

and harrylst enjoy your ride but be carefull to don't get your assistent want to jump out of the window. wich is Always my problem when i play sneller.

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2013-08-17 19:04:22

Hello, all friend, I can say that the first audio game I played was Q9 from Blastbay. It impressed me a lot. Right after I bet it,I found Judgementday, superliam, and other game like Three-D velocity. I like those game since they help reduce my dress after doing a lot of assignment for my course.

2013-08-17 19:12:35

Well  Mike, I am registered blind in the Uk, however  to be registered blind in britain you are registered as blind if you have less than 20 feet of vision or less than 20 degrees visual field. Thus, a lot of people registered blind do have some vision.  I can see colour, light and dark, but only very close up, and as I said, graphical games have to be pretty specific in graphics for me to play them, usually 2D,  in fact I think had I not started with early consoles  like the Atari 2600 I likely wouldn't have got into games since most modern games are just not visually workable, with the exception of beatemups, and even those these days often include ridiculously complex menues or character  generation systems or full 3D  modes that would make them unplayable.


I read using  Hal, since print would  need to be gigantic in order for me to read it efficiently, though I can often see enough to for instance see how many items are in a menue or which is highlighted, (if the contrast is good enough), or  on a windows machine whether a  window is open.

I  have encountered people with similar levels of vision to me who just do't put in the effort to use  it, but for me it does make up part of what I do, for instance, in smugglers I could  tell the faction of the ship by looking at the colour o  of the ship on the picture, albeit I couldn't tell you the type or even (outside of context), that the thing I was looking at was a picture of a  spaceship.

this btw is also why i don't have much patience for fiddling around with  graphical games and doing things by sound, since I am used to being able to tell at least  basically where my character is and where enemies  or opponents are, and given the choice I'd rather  play a game with that level of detail, indeed I still collect older, 2D games play on my older consoles and still play them occasionally when I want the experience.

This is actually why, although I can play a game such as swamp, shades or  terraformers completely by sound (I've  tested this by turning my screen off), I do like to be able to use my vision for an overview, indeed I will admit that in swamp  it can be helpful.


What I want to play most however are rpgs, and those are just as inacessible to me.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2013-08-17 21:14:30

Hi,
my very first audio game I ever played was top speed 3. It was and is so fun! Hope you like this game as well, since I think it is very funny. One thing, I had difficultys with online playing because both I and my friend was behind a Router.

2013-08-18 01:55:35

My very first games I played were mainstream ones on the PS1. I never really got anywhere with them, but still found it rather fun. I was especially fund of GTA, Driver, various need for speed games and tekken 3, which I played by button mashing. Then, in I beieve 2005 I found out about Klango. This was back when they weren't known for the network and it was just a platform for running apps, mostly games.. There were, at the time, 2. I tried the Polish version of Pirate memory (the demo) and got hooked. I would go on to purchasing the game later, but anyway, in addition to hosting Klango itself, the site also had a Wiki, which had an entire section dedicated to international games. The very first non-Polish game I tried was sonic match from BSC, and then I found audio games.net and started exploring other games. I remember playing all of the draconis titles and hearing the Monkey business trailer, wishing I could buy the game somehow. And L works, with the Judgment day gameplay trailer before it came out. After that I started lurking on the forum and Audyssey, using them only to find out about new games, and to a lesser extent how to beat others. I did eventually manage to purchase Monkey business and Pinball Extreme, which were my first ever non Polish game purchases, followed by Judgment Day and Super Liam. This was through a person living in the States. My first ever purchase I made in person came much later, in 2010. It was Aurifi on iOS, but by that time I was already quite active.
The main reason Polish people aren't very aware about audiogames is mostly I think due to the language barrier. Someone might hear about a cool game, but as soon as he/she finds out that it's not in Polish, it's like, oh, I think I'll pass, because I don't know it very well. This is not as much the case as it was before though.

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2013-08-18 11:14:01

I was initially going to claim my first ever audiogame was Sneller as well, but it wasn't. I heard about the game Sneller on Dutch TV, so next day my dad helped me to download it along with another game called Ratjeprak. This was back when 110 MB was quite huge and would take a few hours to download. Ratjeprak was actually the game I played first, though. I was like 7 or 8 years old at the time. More than 10 years ago, which is a rather bizarre idea! And I posted on this here forum in my ridiculous English.

On second thought... There also was this Swedish website with the game TPB memory and a few other small things. That might actually have been my first. I'm not sure anymore now. I didn't know any Swedish at all, so all I basically did was navigate around until I heard the right prompt to start the game...

2013-08-18 14:14:48 (edited by Aminiel 2013-08-18 14:16:31)

Hello all,

I think that the first few audiogames I played were:
1 - Drive, a game where you just have to go straight with your shuttle and pick up bonuses to go faster. It was very easy game but put me in confiance for other harder audiogames, because it was at a time where I just became blind and didn't know exactly what I was still able to do and what I could no longer do.
2 - Dark destroyer, the well known space invader from PB games. Not so hard too, but sufficiently hard at that time to keep me for a moment
3 - Top speed 2, what I consider as being the first really interesting audiogame I ever played. I enjoyed it in multiplayer mode for some years... at the beginning, it wasn't easy though: I crashed very often. But by playing more and more, you finally get it and manage to finish a race without any crash. I remember being very happy the first time I did it.

Today, I don't have much time to play for myself: between my computer science studies, and programming the playroom in my spare time, I'm quite busy.

EDIT: ah lol, I forgot to say that I just found the curb game again. Remember, the stupid game where you have to cross the road... it still works

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2013-08-18 15:34:13

Hi,
I've been blind since birth, and my first gaming experience was on the ps1 with tekken. I used to watch my brother play and then one day he got tekken 2 and just put the thing in practice mode while he and my parents were sorting stuff out around the house, so I played as law and discovered that pressing x and circle at the same time does a move that seemed to keep hitting the opponent.
I then ended up somehow getting into arcade mode and beating a few fights, I was so happy.
The first mainstream game I actually unlocked something in was Tekken 3. A few years later this would be my first fully completed game without sighted help.
The first audiogame I played was the ESP Pinball demo back when ESP Softworks were around. My dad then downloaded the rest of the demos, this was when we were on dial-up so it was rather slow.
Eventually we'd get broadband and my life would really change, I discovered GMA Games, BSC Games, and a few others. One day I was on the net and suddenly remmbered a website I hadn't visited in a long time, audiogames.net, and I remember the headline: Mega Update for 2004!
And I've been here ever since. This is where I first found the japanese space invaders for the blind, and really liked it. Now, we've got japanese rpg games and they are amazing. I also like Perilous Hearts and Top Speed, as evolutions of drive and the super liam formula.

2013-08-19 00:37:35

The first audio game I ever played, as far as I remember, was SOD, back in... 2003 or 2004, I was 9 at that time. I didn't understand the plot at all, but found it very fun to play. That game was my favorite for many years. big_smile

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2013-10-08 22:39:18 (edited by jjgeek 2013-10-31 21:23:06)

The first audio game I ever played was Run for President, a game developed by Phil Vlasak and I think Karl Mickla. I was in high school at the time and had a Toshiba Keynote PC. Either my brother or I put the game on there though along with Destination Mars and they were both a lot of fun. Somehow I also remember playing Tenpin Alley and a car-racing game that was developed by the same 2 guys. Prior to that though, I played some of the old AppleII games such as Lemonade Stand, Madlib, and a Star Wars game.

2013-10-09 00:25:15 (edited by fastfinge 2013-10-09 00:34:07)

Man, I feel so old!  My first audiogame was...uh...what was it even called? It was for DOS, anyway.  There was a maze or a ladder or something, and math or trivia questions.  And it had a burping noise.  Because belching is really the only thing you remember when you're 7 or 8.  So, yeah...that game!  Help, anyone?  Surely there can't be more than 1 audio game for DOS with a burping sound in it, can there?  It was on someone elses computer, as I still had an Apple2 at that point for my computer; I did play a lot of games on that, but none of them are audio games, so they don't count.  What with not really knowing how to use the IBM PC and the strange voice (keynote gold, maybe?), I don't really remember that much about the actual game. 

Eventually I got my own IBMPC computer, though.  For a long time the only games I played on it were things like Zork and A Mind Forever Voyaging.  I did hear about Shades of Doom, and I tried it briefly, but I thought, in the superior way that only a pre-teen can, that it was uninteresting and stupid, because everything happened in real time, so nobody could stop and think, and that audio didn't contain nearly enough details compared to a good text description.  I did have all of the Accessible Games from Robert Bets (Accessible Blackjack, Accessible Freecell, etc), and got Accessible Chat and Accessible Battleship soon after they came out.  Then I got ESP Pinball, and played that for about 3 weeks straight.  I loved it!  After that, I discovered MUDs, and my interest in audio gaming died almost completely.  The only other games I have ever purchased are Super Egg Hunt, Judgement Day, and Troopanum 1. 

To this day, I haven't even bothered to really even try games like Road to Rage, Swamp, Night of Parasite, etc.  I did play a little Accessible Quake because I knew lots of people who were into it, but I never played a single game of Accessible Quake where I wasn't in last place.  So I guess really my interest is in accessible gaming, and I couldn't care less about audio games.  Yet I'm a frequent poster on the Audio Games forum; go figure!

Edit: Oh, oh, oh! I forgot about entombed!  I own that, too! And love it!  You can sit on the combat screen for as long as you want, and nothing will happen. It's glorious.

2013-10-09 02:59:49 (edited by Sebby 2013-10-09 03:04:11)

@Fastfinge: that is really interesting. My first games were IF, and now they're predominantly text again too, despite my full enjoyment of many audio games. My audio gaming was predominant in university, before which it was all IF, and of course shared time with AQ (I met Matt at uni). This was about the time of the "Crazy" development in classical, early-movement no-can-win audio games for Windows, though I'd also played some DOS ones in my youth too. But soon AQ became the sole source of audio entertainment, as my attention shifted again to IF, and I wondered how I'd ever managed to get distracted by audio games at all. I still feel that way, especially when I'm in full-screen Linux console with the BSD games before me. And by now, anyway, I had better things to do than play games (or so I thought, before I eventually joined this forum smile ), like look for a job and skills, so I was necessarily restricted to games which were easily run along with my other work that I could get distracted by on-demand.

Text is the killer medium. It is unsurpassed, and unsurpassable. It goes everywhere, it crosses platforms, it's easy to access, you can run it alongside your other work, and it doesn't require bloody registration. Oh yeah, and text can describe anything. It is the intent of any game, and while it requires you think to make it work for you, it provides guarantees no other medium can. smile

But sometimes you just need audio to test your reflexes. Course, I've tried the newer games, but I don't love them as seriously as I loved the classics (PCS, GMA, VIP, BSC, ESP, whatever). And I never have time for them; the VM is always reverted before you know it. Perhaps that's the problem; the amateur classics have all gone away, and with it a significant amount of easy-access quality time and community achievement. Still, I've only now just tried Technoshock, Night of Parasite and Self Destruct. I can't deny that being easy to access and register is a great help, for example many iOS games, when I'm in the right mood to disconnect from the computer and work and just enjoy iOS, are great candidates. But even there, many of these are simply CYoA or RPG and so you're right back to text. I think Entombed has been the one exception to that rule, partly because of the still-surviving activation system but mostly because of the depth of the game and the wonderful music!

Now that I've had more time to catch up around here, I hope to be able to turn back the clock a little and see some delight in specifically audio-only action games. However, that's not proved to be quite yet. Perhaps RTR2 will do it? smile

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2013-10-09 07:41:53

I can't remember very well what my first audio game was, think it was accessible battleship. Before that since I still had a little vision, I played mainstream games, mostly on the ps2, though I did own a Gameboy at one point. Ofcourse, I wasn't very good at the games, and because when I look at a television screen things tend to move around to much for me to see them, but it was still fun to play the games. All I can remember is when I got my first computer, I wasn't very interested till my parents showed me audiogames, and even then I was still thinking meh, these can't be quite as interesting as console gaming, considering the first games I remember being shown were accessible battleship, G M A mine buster and pack man talks. It was only when I found the huge gaming list that pcsgames had to offer that I found this site and got my intrest in audiogaming.

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2013-10-09 08:33:59

Hi.
I currently haven't much time to write as much as I wanna do. smile
Then I was a kit, I started with old text adventures in MS dos, using a Braille display. That was before i learned english, and someone in my country did an amazing job of finding accessible text adventures in danish, which I was forever thankful about they did. I don't know how many hours I sat there in front of my parents old computer, booted their machine running Win 95 up in Dos, connected my Braille display and enjoyed those epic adventures.
Later on I got my own Dos computer, and I sat there all the time and played games and explored the operating system.
Sooner I got Windows, and the very first audiogame I tried was Battleship. then Grizzly gulch, Shades of doom and then I slowly began to follow the english news as my english got better and better.

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