The instructions on the site imply that you should be able, using the map

maker programme, to be able to create your own maps using your own sound

files, but the programme isn't really screen reader friendly. I don't know

very much about mods, but I'd think if the programme lets you create your

own maps with your own files, I'm surprised you can't muck about with the

programme files as well --- unless the Last Crusade Programme and the Map

making thing are separate?

Well the first company to produce an Audio Rpg

will get huge creddit, and the first company to produce an accessible audio

rpg creator will get even huger creddit.

does that adventure rpg still exist?
if so, can you please post up a

link?
thx

Well let's not confuse rpg's and interactive fiction. A lot of the early

i.f like Adventure and Zork was very puzle driven and the puzles were

extremely random.
rpg's don't generally work on puzles, or if they do

their very minor puzles like being given a clue by a charactor and using it

later. Other than that their generally driven on plot and charactors with a

bit of leveling up thrown in for good measure (Adventure had non of those

things). As to satisfaction I think it's great to have your rear end handed

to you by a boss, go away and train your charactors then come back and mop

the floor with it.

well anyway, you can play the Adventure game online

here:

http://www.ifiction.org/

I think it's in the historical

section.

If you'd prefer to download it (along with lots of other Text

adventure games), there's a Tads interpreter to run the game files as well

as the file itself here:

http://www.whitestick.co.uk/text.html

Hope

that helps.

I'm

working on a game in the map maker, yes, with a sighted friend. The game

isn't finished because we're figuring out some of the things that were not

mentioned in the tutorial.
Unofficial note on SL2:
The game is in

development, sort of, I think. Liam posted to the mailing list asking for

suggestions. Since I loved the first one, I jumped at the chance to

suggest.

I

agree about an Audio RPG Creator. There's all those sighted ones out there,

so it's fitting there be an Audio one. Of course the sighted ones are

almost all translathions since the only place they actually were released

was in Japan. And companies get so mad agbout game piracy. I must say that

if you choose to release a game or any product for that matter in some

countries and not in others, you're pretty much asking for piracy since

that's the only way those other countries are going to be able to play the

games in their native languages. But it's good to know that SL2 might be

going back into development. I understand Liam's a busy fellow...

Not screen reader friendly.

Okay. Another thing. Rpg's are *not*

old-fashioned. they're awesome, because I can have so much freedom of

movement, logic tests, and, of course, as James said, getting your ass

kicked by bosses. For example, resident evil 4 for the ps2 had a great deal

of fun involved, and was very good... in that it had a bit more of fun than

shooting things...

Resident Evil's a kinda futuristic game, isn't it? First you've

got people in labs doing crazy experiments with viruses, then in RE4 you've

got like... people infected by parasites and running around calling

themselves the los illuminados or something...

All in all, I think Mike

is refering to old-fashioned as kind of resembling text adventures. Either

that or what Dark said...

The

Zork trilogy freakin' rocks. I found accessible downloadable versions of

them at a website I don't remember anymore. I just wish there were more.

Audio Adventure engine?
I don't know, if it's just to play interactive

fiction, then you can do that anyway with a speech synthesisor --- there's

even a programme which will play I.F. using Sapi so you don't need a

synthesisor at all.

As reguards I.F. games, there's loads of stuff on

the Interactive Fiction Archive:
http://www.ifarchive.org/

While it's

fun, I'd stil much prefer a proper Rpg with all the atmosphere and plot,

combat and such.

Btw, if you like Zork Jade, you'll probably like this

site:

http://www.ifiction.org/games/index.php?cat=2

There's the

three Zork games plus something called Zork 0 as well, you can play them all

online.
I'm not a fan of Dungeon crawl stuff like Zork myself, I prefer a

bit more charactor interaction, and maybe the chance to beat up some baddies

as well.

Right...

You know why this isn't happening? Because some people

*cough* flame, and because not enough people join sighted gaming forums. I

myself am on the Mortal Kombat forums at MKsecrets and Midway. First thing

you do is leave the fact that you're blind in your bio if you write it, and

then leave it to the others to decide...

If they don't believe youthen

fine. If they do, dive right in. Join disscussions, etc.

Yep, I like Superliam too,kmostly because of the amusing cut scenes. As

Reguards Galaxy Ranger, please let me explain what I meant by primative.

I'm not doing the game down, or stating that it's a bad effort, I'm

merely noting the fact that in terms of the progression of Main Stream

stratogy games Galaxy Ranger is about 15 years or so behind, it's a great

game, it just needs more research.

as to joining main stream forums, I

used to be a regular poster at the Megaman Network, but unfortunately when

they went through a site redesign they put in one of those type the number

you see in this graphic anti spam things.
I've tried mailing the admins

but no go thus far, maybe I'll just grit my teeth and ask one of my mates

to do it for me ---- it's what I ended up doing when Paypal did the same

thing.

I can't shed any light on the beat-em-up situation, but as reguards main

stream forums, I've generally found that the decencey of the forum

participates increases inversely according to the popularity of the forum's

subject. In other words, people oon specialist forums tend to be much more

reasonable.
I've have once or twice wandered around the forums for a game

series nobody will have ever heard of called Turrican, originally for the

C64 and Amiga, and people there were amazingly nice.

On the other hand,

we won't mention the flamery that exists on the gamefaqs general boards

---- and a lot of their specific game boards as well.