Robin24:
Considering that you've been chief whinger so far...

For very good reasons.
A) It would take quite a lot of work producing half a dozen different demos, whereupon you complainers will jno doubt object to having to download and install several different demos, and why they couldn't have just the one demo
B) Because the effort of releasing seperate demos will slow the development of the game down
C) Because fighting and the other elements don't occur in isolation. Areas will likeoly contain multiple types of activity, and the code for the different types of activity will be interwoven in certain ways. That's like asking Microsoft to release three demos of Word, one for saving, one for opening and one for spell check
D) Because they shouldn't have to prove anything.

I am now officially screaming at the top of my lungs here. It's lucky this is over the internet, because if this was face to face I'd be dancing on your tonsils right now. Like I keep saying you will be able to make useful comments only, and only *when* you learn about software development. It doesn't have to be games development, all software is the same.

Why the hell do we get this and the mainstream doesn't?

It would be very difficult to seperate the code for fighting, climbing and jumping. It is also possible that the code for the three may have issues interfering with each other. You can't take any one of the three independently, which is what I said before.

As I said, either learn about software development and the issues involved or keep quiet.

parham = Member:
We've been having this problem here for a while now. Unfortunately I fear that they won't feel bad about it if the game does come out, or even if a game is cancelled. These sort are the people who can't accept the possibility that they might be wrong, or that they don't have sufficient knowledge to understand the situation.

Knowing your limits is more important than what you do or don't know most of the time. It's knowing how to use knowledge.

Good thinking. I'll do the same. I was attempting to protect the sanity of the place, and show people they should respect developers as individuals rather than treat them as faceless companies but obviously it's like banging my head against a brick wall.

I'll surrender this thread to the fools, but there's only so far I'll put up with these people before I either snap one way or the other.

so you can have your money back in no time and are worried about your money? since i'm in iran i can't work with these kind of payments and thus, i don't buy any games. so i didn't know that you can have your money back very soon. well then, your fault is more, none the less. because there's no worries and you'll get it back. so will it be so bad to wait for a month or two? do you need that 34 dollars just tomorrow? sertainly not!  so wait for a while and get your money back if there's no game, but respect the persons who're writing games. this sentence is being said for the thousandth time. respect, the, people, who, are, working, for, you, to, help, you, pass, the, time! how should we shout it! how should we!

robin 24:

listen kid, all those inside conflicts and dilemas about paypal and wanting your mony back, onnestly why the hell do you have to do it here, can't you talk with your mummy about those things?, why should we care if you want to give alchemy a weekk,a munth,a year,we dont care a single bit, so just eather talk to your self, or write your thots and conflicts in notepad and read them over and over all day *just keep us out of your problems*, and when you have something interesting to say, go on and post

Lighttech Interactive wrote:

listen kid, all those inside conflicts and dilemas about paypal and wanting your mony back, onnestly why the hell do you have to do it here, can't you talk with your mummy about those things?, why should we care if you want to give alchemy a weekk,a munth,a year,we dont care a single bit, so just eather talk to your self, or write your thots and conflicts in notepad and read them over and over all day *just keep us out of your problems*, and when you have something interesting to say, go on and post

That's definitely to much! Comments like "talk to your mummy" are discriminatory. I think you shouldn't talk like this, better shut up! If you have to talk to your mummy about everything, do not think that other people also have to do that! No shut the computer down, I think it's time for you to go to bed!

parham, you are right.
I wanted to post a message about that.
Ok, listen robin.
I can understand that you are worying about your money.
But:
1. If you write it here, we cant do anything about it (however, i can understand you are angry about it)
2. You shouldnt order games (preorder i mean).
3. Patience is our best friend, because if the game will come out then you will say that i missed a game.
I can tell you, that no audiogame developer want to steal your money, because there are other ways which they can do it. (But they wont)
Why do they have to work like hell with a great audio game, if there are better ways to steal your money (i think you heard about those things, when somebody have an ill person, and he/she needs money to his/her operation, and send him money)?
I think this post has duplicated messages, because everyone answers to you, and you are just wondering that a person comes, and just says: shut up.
Ok, it is maybe rude, but what do you expect after thousands of anoying messages?
And i think cx2 warned you about that as well.
I think you should be happy that just one person wrote that message.

Sorry for the long post,
regards,

sometimes James has explained on email lists why it is
taking a bit longer.

ok, there it is, he explained it.
I think another reason people are upset is that they're wanting a new game to play.  The same thing happens in the mainstream gaming world, too, you know.

but this doesn't give us any permition to gossip about game developers, does it?
and in main stream gaming world, say, there are about 40/50/higher people working on a game, but most of our developers are 1/2/3 etc. i believe it wouldn't be even 20 people programming an audio game. aren't i right?

Hi,
Do you know that the Monti demo is no finally out. I haven't downloaded it yet, because you need username and password to download it from the developers website.
Bye,
Lord_Raven

Well I just downloaded it and tried it and found it to be quite enjoyable. What I can't figure out, and I'd be eternally grateful if someone pointed out the error of my ways, is how to jump from rope to rope. When clinging to a rope, the jump/leap key (num pad zero) has no effect. Might be a bug, but it would make the demo unplayable and thus would have been discovered during betatesting.

A clue, anyone?

Did anyone get the function keys (music on/off, louder/softer, change perspective) to work? Or the asterisc (inventory toggle)?

Greetings,
EternalGamer