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Hey. This wil probably interest a good number of people:Mircosoft
has released an "express" vrsion of visual studio.net last november. It
will be free until november of 06 which means if you get it now you won't
have to pay for it. Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/ to
check it out. (from what I understand it lets you compile stuff and yes can
use stuf like DirectX though it might be a bit watered down from somethig
like standard or professional).
Let me get this straight. It's a slightly cut down version of Visual
Basic.net?
It can include slightly cut down versions of visual basic.net, visual
c++.net, visual c#.net, SQL Server, and maybe something else.
Thank god...at least I've got something to work with if I wanna
program...hehe.
Can
you download it?
Is VB.net the same as VB? As in DirectSound and other
things?
Can you download it?
Erm... yes, you
can.
Is VB.net the same as VB? As in DirectSound and other
things?
Wel you can use the old DX8 stuff or you can migrate up to
DirectX 9 which has DirectSound, DirectInput and all your old friends.
Check out agdev.org for some tutorials also gpwiki.org might have some stuff
too. (I know GPWiki doesn't have stuf specific to "blind games," but a lot
of that can be used anyway - don't discriminate)
Try it. It's free.
OK I don't know if hte designer works with
jaws - ask Munawar but you can edit code which is usually good enough for
games.
hello,
I am not a programmer but wanting to know which file do i need to
download because i'm thinking of programming so i thought i'll get the
program now instead of having to pay for it.
kind regards.
Yes,
the deisnger works with JAWS. Actually from what I've heard 2005 is suppsed
to be better because Microsoft has focused specifically on making it that
way.
Look,
I just ran VB Express 2005 and it doesn't work with jaws! It doesn't even
function or recognize the code window or designer it doesn't work! I was
hoping tiis would work so we could start programming since I have VS 6 and
my friend doesn't and i don't have the setup file, I thought it'd be good
to program with this. If anyone's got scripts...
I think
I saw a VB script for Jaws on Gutterstar. Honestly Mike, you really need to
calm down. This isn't the end of the world.
I know Jaws 4.5 had scripts
for VB6 included, I don't know about later versions of Jaws or VB, but like
I said I think I saw a .net script on gutterstar.net. VB.net is only VB7
anyway.
I wonder if the .net version of VC++ is any good... VB's quick
and easy, but once you've learned C++ you start thinking in that language
automatically.
VS.NET 2005 does not work correctly with the JAWS scripts. It is supposed
to, from what I have heard, work right out of the box. I have not had a hand
at it yet though but I suggest playing around with it without scripts. It
coudl be that you're just not used to the new set up.
The web
page said the express versions have a streamlined interface. To me that set
off warning bells, it would be very easy for the accessibility to be lost in
the translation to the express version. It could be as simple as the express
development team not being aware of accessibility, and no one thought to
mention it to them.
I haven't had a chance to check the actual software
out yet though.
VB.net is only VB7 anyway.
This is actually not the
case. VB.NET is not simply vb6++. The entire IDE has been changed along with
countless other things that cannot possibly make it simply one step up from
VB6. If it were that way, i'd've stuck with 6 but many factors including
the introduction of full-fledged object-orientation inspired me to
migrate.
Think I'll try this... and see if it works better than vb 6. It's
the toolbox. Can't get JAWS to read the controlls. Ah well...
Yeah,
should I delete the scripts? It was the scripts making it act strange
Are you sure it was the scripts? Depends on what scripts for which
version of JAWS you were using, and what version dyou were using. Say, if
the scripts were for jfw 3.7, you're not gonna use that with jaws 5.0
because it is gonna screw up!
cx2 wrote:VB.net is only VB7 anyway.
This is
actually not the case. VB.NET is not simply vb6++. The entire IDE has been
changed along with countless other things that cannot possibly make it
simply one step up from VB6. If it were that way, i'd've stuck with 6 but
many factors including the introduction of full-fledged object-orientation
inspired me to migrate.
The official standpoint, and the view of
most programmers I know is that VB.net is VB7. I've since learned though
that what we're talking about here is VB.net 2005, which is more or less
VB8. Sometimes new versions are a small change, sometimes they're a major
overhaul.
We're so used to changes like office 2000 to XP, which were
not significant. Microsoft often releases new versions simply to make money,
getting people to upgrade when it isn't strictly necessary. This makes us
forget what the version numbers really are. Describing VB.net as VB7
doesn't mean it's little different from VB6, it merely means it is the
next release of the VB product from VB6. The version numbers are nothing
more than a signifier of which incarnation of the product it is, and don't
in fact tell you whether it's any better or worse and how much has been
altered. It's often implied that later versions are better because that's
how the human mind thinks, and occasionally the human mind thinks one
version step isn't major purely because the number isn't much different.
That's why they called it .net instead of 7 I assume, in reality the number
is just that - a number, nothing more.
Edit:
Okay, I've been doing some
checking and there have been more .net versions than I thought. 2005 might
not be version 8, I've lost track. What I do know is that the original
VB.net was VB7, purely by being the seventh incarnation of visual basic.
Each version after that would be VB8, VB9 and so on. Strictly speaking this
is the case, although like I said this doesn't make comment on how much has
changed.
No, I
mean how do i get vB 2005 to work with jaws (6.2)?
ok
listen ya all
for onething, vb.net 2005 express adition doesn't let you
compile your scripts
i.e, make executable files (*.exe)
also, to all of
you who use jfw , you should reclass the code editor ,and delete the
*.msenvb files from your scripts folder
there are no scripts that let you
work with vs.net 2005 currently, but they're being worked on, and now the
only way to use vs.net 2005 is with out any scripts,and do some complicated
stuf such as reclass the code editor and something to do with MSAA as
well
mike :
as I sed before,I'd be more than happy to help you and
your friend get your code up,i.e, typs,
how - tos, and answer your
questions as well as I can, but my suggestion is to drop this holler about
.net, my company uses visual basic 6.0, and it's more than kapable of
produsing hot and complicated(asuming you know what to do of course) media
programs,games,players etc
feell free to add me to msn
at:
[email protected]
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http://www.lighttechinteractive.com
up soon!
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yakir arbib
If he
wants to use .NET, why stop him? .NET has much more potential than VB6;
it's more according to standards and OOP and to be honest he'd be able to
do much more with .NET than he would with 6. Just look at all thetrouble
you're having with 6 because of its poor construction. It's not a
consistent language.
If he wants to use .NET, why stop him? .NET has much more
potential than VB6; it's more according to standards and OOP and to be
honest he'd be able to do much more with .NET than he would with 6. Just
look at all thetrouble you're having with 6 because of its poor
construction. It's not a consistent language.
I agree with
mMunawar on this one. VB6 just isn't great. .net simplifies everything to
the extreme in my oppinion. For example, making classes have there own
functions and methods for one thing, allows you to deal with properties and
arrays than VB6. Once you think of it, .net is a more sofisticated
language.
Also, VB2005 doesn't work with jaws well at the moment. I'd
stick with 2003 that is. .net is the way to go, however. VB6 just makes me
want to learn c++ it's the crappiest language in my book...eww F*** VB6.
VB6 just isn't great. .net simplifies everything to
the extreme in my oppinion. For example, making classes have there own
functions and methods for one thing, allows you to deal with properties and
arrays than VB6.
I must disagree with you there. VB6 because it is
"worse" is the simpler language. VB6 does allow classes to have their own
functions. If you can find VB6 I think it would definitely be easier to pick
up, but you probably can't since its discontinued. .net is by no means
difficult to learn but if you have the choice I'd go with vb6. None of the
new features i .net are really crytical for games anyway.
If you
use VB6 you'll have to get Direct X API from BSC games' site. I had to
look hard on the net to find the full DX8.1 since I want to use C++, and
microsoft only offer the DX9 API for download it seems.
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